Any Bowie fans out there?

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PaulB

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As with the Beatles, Beachboys, and many others I don't want to take anything away from what they have done. But what they did was 30 years ago and they really have done nothing of note since. It seems a point of embarrassment for the artist when then trot out a new album that sells 25,000 copies to their die-hard fans who only buy it from habit and some odd loyalty and then chuck the CD on the shelf with last 6 albums that they also never listen to (as they are all rubbish).
The creative genius that prompted millions of fans and sales has long dried up.
Fair enough remembering them for what they have done. But remember the genius bit not the sad old star that will not leave it alone.
Tell us your opinion on Bob Dylan using your faultless logic on that one, dear guru.
 

raleighnut

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Tell us your opinion on Bob Dylan using your faultless logic on that one, dear guru.

I would say that my view is the view shared by most people of my age, with really only the die-hard Bowie fans and the music biz being interested in anything he has done recently.

Dylan is similar in some ways, with his big decade being a bit earlier of course. He did go through periods of trotting out the old stuff and dropping off the scene. Like Bowie I am not sure if there has been a decent studio album from Dylan in a very long time but what there has been has been lapped up by fans and critics. But he has popped up over the years with the Travelling Wilburys which was fine as an old codger supergroup.
His charity Christmas album was fun - a word not in Bowies vocabulary, but mainly awful output - an album of Sinatra covers! FFS!! Basically he is a parody of himself.
But of course he is endlessly on tour and could sell out anywhere for ever as everyone wants to see him.

Before we go through a long list of faded pop stars, most follow this pattern unless they completely dropped out of the scene. Perhaps two exceptions - Take that: back and resurrected. Elton John: similar sweet era as Bowie but then gone on to later work in film soundtracks and other areas plus stuff outside music.
 
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I would say that my view is the view shared by most people of my age, with really only the die-hard Bowie fans and the music biz being interested in anything he has done recently.

Dylan is similar in some ways, with his big decade being a bit earlier of course. He did go through periods of trotting out the old stuff and dropping off the scene. Like Bowie I am not sure if there has been a decent studio album from Dylan in a very long time but what there has been has been lapped up by fans and critics. But he has popped up over the years with the Travelling Wilburys which was fine as an old codger supergroup.
His charity Christmas album was fun - a word not in Bowies vocabulary, but mainly awful output - an album of Sinatra covers! FFS!! Basically he is a parody of himself.
But of course he is endlessly on tour and could sell out anywhere for ever as everyone wants to see him.

Before we go through a long list of faded pop stars, most follow this pattern unless they completely dropped out of the scene. Perhaps two exceptions - Take that: back and resurrected. Elton John: similar sweet era as Bowie but then gone on to later work in film soundtracks and other areas plus stuff outside music.

Nice try, OTH. I thought you were being serious, but you're clearly on the wind-up!
 

PaulB

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Location
Colne
I would say that my view is the view shared by most people of my age, with really only the die-hard Bowie fans and the music biz being interested in anything he has done recently.

Dylan is similar in some ways, with his big decade being a bit earlier of course. He did go through periods of trotting out the old stuff and dropping off the scene. Like Bowie I am not sure if there has been a decent studio album from Dylan in a very long time but what there has been has been lapped up by fans and critics. But he has popped up over the years with the Travelling Wilburys which was fine as an old codger supergroup.
His charity Christmas album was fun - a word not in Bowies vocabulary, but mainly awful output - an album of Sinatra covers! FFS!! Basically he is a parody of himself.
But of course he is endlessly on tour and could sell out anywhere for ever as everyone wants to see him.

Before we go through a long list of faded pop stars, most follow this pattern unless they completely dropped out of the scene. Perhaps two exceptions - Take that: back and resurrected. Elton John: similar sweet era as Bowie but then gone on to later work in film soundtracks and other areas plus stuff outside music.
That's a piss-take, right? If you're being serious here, I'd rather discuss this with the children under my wife's specialist care as they'd invariably be more interesting than anything we're seeing from you. We still live in hope you'll come out as a jester winding us all up.
 
That's a piss-take, right? If you're being serious here, I'd rather discuss this with the children under my wife's specialist care as they'd invariably be more interesting than anything we're seeing from you. We still live in hope you'll come out as a jester winding us all up.
Many a true word spoken in jest.

For a real laugh how about telling us the highlights of Bowie or Dylan's output in the last say 5 years. Then rate them against Alladin Sane as the benchmark of 10. Wow us with a youtube clip that is not 30 years old.
 

raleighnut

Legendary Member
Discovered this by accident/googling, might be an old song but worth watching


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5nYX-iuUFk&feature=player_detailpage
 

PaulB

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Colne
Many a true word spoken in jest.

For a real laugh how about telling us the highlights of Bowie or Dylan's output in the last say 5 years. Then rate them against Alladin Sane as the benchmark of 10. Wow us with a youtube clip that is not 30 years old.
That would be FAR too easy. Discussing the output of a music giant like Bob Dylan against someone actually championing Take That (I shiteth thee not!) would be like taking sweets from toddlers.

And why the arbitrary five years? That's obviously to suit your narrow-minded blind spot on something that you aren't even aware will bury you.

But here we go. In the 21st century, Dylan won the 'give-em-away-like-motel-matches' Oscar for 'the song Things have changed'.
The album 'Love and Theft' was critically well received, grammy-nominated and sold in bucketloads.
Dylan widens his musical palette to include rockabilly, swing, jazz-lounge ballads, all indicating his still evolving talent.
In 2003, the magnificent 'Gotta serve somebody' became as vital as anything he did in your halcyon 60s.
He co-wrote and starred on the film 'Masked and anonymous' alongside Jeff Bridges, Penelope Cruz and John Candy.
Showed his talent as a DJ on national radio in America.
2006. Modern Times was so highly praised, it won best contemporary folk/Americana album - Best Rock solo vocal performance and Album of the Year from 'Rolling Stone'
2007 the film 'I'm not there' indicated his profile amongst the great and the good who sought to play him in various guises in the iconic and highly regarded movie.
He then appeared alongside Will.I.Am at the Live Superbowl XVlll in front of 98 million viewers doing his own songs.
"Together through Life" in 2009 was number one in the Billboard 200 US chart.
He currently holds the record on both sides of the Atlantic for the time between first and last number one record.
From 2010 to date, remastered and digitised Bootleg tapes are still being released indicating his growing and evolving abilities and he's still playing to sell out shows to this day.

And I'm only scratching the surface on his contribution in your arbitrarily chosen time frame there.

You've picked an entirely appropriate name for your ostrich act and now you've made your mind up, you'll become more trenchant as you typify the old adage 'It's easier to fool a man than to convince him he's been fooled'.

We'll re-visit David Bowie when I've time tomorrow.
 
That would be FAR too easy. Discussing the output of a music giant like Bob Dylan against someone actually championing Take That (I shiteth thee not!) would be like taking sweets from toddlers.

And why the arbitrary five years? That's obviously to suit your narrow-minded blind spot on something that you aren't even aware will bury you.

But here we go. In the 21st century, Dylan won the 'give-em-away-like-motel-matches' Oscar for 'the song Things have changed'.
The album 'Love and Theft' was critically well received, grammy-nominated and sold in bucketloads.
Dylan widens his musical palette to include rockabilly, swing, jazz-lounge ballads, all indicating his still evolving talent.
In 2003, the magnificent 'Gotta serve somebody' became as vital as anything he did in your halcyon 60s.
He co-wrote and starred on the film 'Masked and anonymous' alongside Jeff Bridges, Penelope Cruz and John Candy.
Showed his talent as a DJ on national radio in America.
2006. Modern Times was so highly praised, it won best contemporary folk/Americana album - Best Rock solo vocal performance and Album of the Year from 'Rolling Stone'
2007 the film 'I'm not there' indicated his profile amongst the great and the good who sought to play him in various guises in the iconic and highly regarded movie.
He then appeared alongside Will.I.Am at the Live Superbowl XVlll in front of 98 million viewers doing his own songs.
"Together through Life" in 2009 was number one in the Billboard 200 US chart.
He currently holds the record on both sides of the Atlantic for the time between first and last number one record.
From 2010 to date, remastered and digitised Bootleg tapes are still being released indicating his growing and evolving abilities and he's still playing to sell out shows to this day.

And I'm only scratching the surface on his contribution in your arbitrarily chosen time frame there.

You've picked an entirely appropriate name for your ostrich act and now you've made your mind up, you'll become more trenchant as you typify the old adage 'It's easier to fool a man than to convince him he's been fooled'.

We'll re-visit David Bowie when I've time tomorrow.

I could easily sing 10 Dylan songs (as most people could) but not one from the past 20 years . Please pop a youtube clip of a hit song of Dylan from the past 20 years that is good and some people apart from the music press and die-hard fans will know.
 

SteCenturion

I am your Father
I am not really at all keen on all this 'rounding up' on a poster.

OTH has his opinion, which he clearly believes in, my opinion differs to his yet he has a point regarding 'some' output *McCartney especially* & to say there has been nothing of note from Messrs Bowie & Dylan might be plain old wrong or extreme, but it is just a viewpoint of one member who is entitled to form his own.

I have some Bowie & Dylan albums that are just O.K.

The Take That analogy is very poor, but again that is just my opinion.

There are very good points made that maybe don't need to be quite so forceful.
 

PaulB

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Location
Colne
I could easily sing 10 Dylan songs (as most people could) but not one from the past 20 years . Please pop a youtube clip of a hit song of Dylan from the past 20 years that is good and some people apart from the music press and die-hard fans will know.

No. As you're stuck in the past, I'd suggest you update yourself on that one yourself. Perhaps you'd be happier sticking with Take That
 

Chromatic

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Location
Gloucestershire
I would say that my view is the view shared by most people of my age, with really only the die-hard Bowie fans and the music biz being interested in anything he has done recently.

Dylan is similar in some ways, with his big decade being a bit earlier of course. He did go through periods of trotting out the old stuff and dropping off the scene. Like Bowie I am not sure if there has been a decent studio album from Dylan in a very long time but what there has been has been lapped up by fans and critics. But he has popped up over the years with the Travelling Wilburys which was fine as an old codger supergroup.
His charity Christmas album was fun - a word not in Bowies vocabulary, but mainly awful output - an album of Sinatra covers! FFS!! Basically he is a parody of himself.
But of course he is endlessly on tour and could sell out anywhere for ever as everyone wants to see him.

Before we go through a long list of faded pop stars, most follow this pattern unless they completely dropped out of the scene. Perhaps two exceptions - Take that: back and resurrected. Elton John: similar sweet era as Bowie but then gone on to later work in film soundtracks and other areas plus stuff outside music.

I don't.
 
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