welsh dragon
Thanks but no thanks. I think I'll pass.
Do trade plate hitchers still exist?
Yes. They do. I have seen a few down this way. The last one was last year.
Do trade plate hitchers still exist?
And your evidence for this assertion?
I think it says a lot that the figures youcherrypickquote (1898 to 2002) are over a decade out of date. They also don't show 'an exponential rise' as you suggested. And you seem to have ignored the data from 2002 - 2015 (also available on the page you link to) which demonstrated the downward trend.
But I'm sure all the experts who look at these things for a living, like those working at the ONS, the British Crime Survey and the various university research units, are wrong and you're right.
Blunkett introduced the National Crime Recording Standard in 2002. Its effect on recorded crime is well documented:32,000 'other woundings' in 1970 compared to more than 200,000 in 2002 looks like an increase to me, but people can make up their own minds.
Blunkett introduced the National Crime Recording Standard in 2002. Its effect on recorded crime is well documented:
:"In the short term, however, the cost of introducing these changes has been to inflate artificially estimates of the increase in
the number of crimes recorded by the police. The main Crime bulletin (2002/03), published alongside this companion
volume, shows that without taking into account the impact of introducing the NCRS the numbers of crimes recorded by
police forces in England and Wales increased by seven per cent from 2001/02. This stands in stark contrast to the overall
trends in the British Crime Survey, which show a decrease of two per cent from 2001/02 to 2002/03. The difference this
year can largely be explained by the introduction of the NCRS and it has therefore been imperative to monitor the impact
of these changes to enable the Home Office to provide a better indication of the actual level of police recorded crime in
2002/03. When the effect of the NCRS is taken into account, police recorded crime decreased by three per cent overall
from 2001/02 to 2002/03."
Source
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...ggqMAA&usg=AFQjCNHCOx_Lx9KkXKVqcHZaZYQBWGhOVQ
What's more, is that in the fifteen, yes, that's figures 1 5 since your chosen date, the reclassification of violent crime has meant the inclusion of several previously minor crimes such as Sect 5 Public Order Act, which in itself makes comparison more complicated. I don't have details to hand unfortunately.
All fine and dandy, except it relates to 2001/2 and the years following.
Violent crime in all its forms has increased hugely since the 1970s, even taking into account a very arguable claimed decline for some of the 2000s.
The figures in the historical table I posted earlier do not lie.
Or you could make your own assessment.
Do you honestly think society is less violent now than when you were growing up?
Yes, I genuinely believe the UK is a safer place than it was.
Stab vests were issued in West Yorks in 1993 IIRC. No responsible supervisor would let any of their team out of the door without one. It's a H&S issue. If protective equipment is available, it needs to be worn.Fair enough, maybe I spend too much time in courts.
I was thinking about knife crime today as the third bladed article case was called on.
Call me a cynic, but like drugs, for every case that's detected there are dozens that aren't.
I don't recall knives being so prevalent in the late 70s, and I'm sure you rarely saw a copper with a stab vest, now you rarely see a copper without one.
What's the first question on arrest?
Are you carrying anything you shouldn't?
We still use the phrase 'routine booze fuelled violence' or 'routine weekend violence' to describe the many defendants who appear for town and city centre punch-ups.
I can't say I've noticed a significant decline in that type of case, but maybe there aren't quite so many than in the days when Durham City was described as Dodge City.
Stab vests were issued in West Yorks in 1993 IIRC. No responsible supervisor would let any of their team out of the door without one. It's a H&S issue. If protective equipment is available, it needs to be worn.