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GrumpyGregry

Here for rides.
A bit of advice if you don't mind please?

I started running about six months ago and everything was going well until a couple of months ago.

I started with a pain in my knee that stopped me running, and I left alone until the pain finally disappeared.

Starting running again brought the pain back straight away, and this morning my doctor reckons he can feel the start of arthritis coming on.

Has anyone managed to keep going with this, or did you have to do as my doctor says and give up?
Most GP's stock answer to anything relating to I do this sport and I have this pain is "stop it". Unless your medic is a specialist you could do worse than to get an opinion from another doctor or health professional who has a more enabling outlook. After all if you rock up at said doc and say "It hurts when I walk or stand up" you'd be unhappy with "stop it then" as a response,

I tend to ignore them and listen to my own body. I know what the usual level of "background noise" of pain from my worn and torn joints is. So long as the "noise" doesn't change I keep going. I'm lucky; two of the GP's in my practise are trathletes as was the registrar I saw when I cracked the condyle of my femur.
 

GrumpyGregry

Here for rides.
Friday night, there I am cooking a cauliflower cheese for a group of friends TLH & I meet with once a month. It's a Church thing and we've to feed nine people. Kitchen floor has vinyl tile, my shoes have leather soles (yes darling I should have taken them off). The boiling choux-fleur has to be al-dente, just so, and I lift the large cast iron Le Crueset pan from the hob and turn towards the sink so as to drain it. I take a step. A small fragment of cauliflower gets between floor and shoes and suddenly it's like my front foot is on roller skates. Down I go, doing the splits and desperately trying not to dump the scalding water over my legs, tummy and crotch. I end up in a sort of hyper-extended lunge whilst almost literally bending over backwards. The pain in my lower back as it went into spasm, took my breath away! But I didn't drop the dinner; slopped some water hither and thither. Was in pain during the meal and didn't sleep well. Ow! Ow! Ow!

Saturday comes. I've paid £20 quid, months back to enter a school's PTA fundraiser 10k because it means I can run it in bit of NT property not normally open to the public. "The Clandon Park 10k". Like an idiot I go. It takes 75 minutes to drive the 22 miles to the venue and my back is aching the whole time. TLH and I swap seats as soon as we arrive and I jog off to get my numbers whilst she parks the car. Only time for a five-minute-warm-up and off we all go. six odd km in and the runner two in front trips over a root and goes down hard, the following run falls over her and like a knob I try to hurdle of the pair. I make it but on landing POW! Back spasm and in two steps I'm on all fours. They pick themselves up, dust themselves off and run off. Not a word to me. Charming. I can only think of obscenities as I crank myself slowly back upright. Chuff this hurts. I shuffle forwards wincing with each step. The shuffle becomes a jog, the jog a trot and the trot after a few hundred metres becomes a run. Well what passes for a run when I'm doing 10k. And somewhere in the middle the pain stops. Leaving the woods I see the other two casualties on the other side of the field. "You are going down" I declare and I up the pace til the % max HR on my Garmin gets a little alarming. I dig in. I catch them. "You ok?" asks one as I pass. "Yer" is my grunted reply before I pass the second. "No thanks to you" I think.

I decide the last 3k will be run as an intervals session. Muller myself for 500m ease of for the next 500 then muller again. I overtake loads of other folk, and my back isn't hurting anymore and I give it some beans for the finish - which isn't easy as it involves running around bits of the campus though narrow gates and underpasses.

I finish. Gun time is 20 seconds slower than my trail 10k PB. Garmin/Strava says my time was around 40 seconds faster. And I haven't had a peep out of my back since I finished.
 

stephec

Legendary Member
Location
Bolton
Most GP's stock answer to anything relating to I do this sport and I have this pain is "stop it". Unless your medic is a specialist you could do worse than to get an opinion from another doctor or health professional who has a more enabling outlook. After all if you rock up at said doc and say "It hurts when I walk or stand up" you'd be unhappy with "stop it then" as a response,

I tend to ignore them and listen to my own body. I know what the usual level of "background noise" of pain from my worn and torn joints is. So long as the "noise" doesn't change I keep going. I'm lucky; two of the GP's in my practise are trathletes as was the registrar I saw when I cracked the condyle of my femur.

Thanks Greg, I was thinking about going for the second opinion.

One of the other doctors in the surgery seemed quite happy when I told him I'd damaged my shoulder in a cycling accident a few years ago, I might see if he's anymore sympathetic. :smile:
 
Friday night, there I am cooking a cauliflower cheese for a group of friends TLH & I meet with once a month. It's a Church thing and we've to feed nine people. Kitchen floor has vinyl tile, my shoes have leather soles (yes darling I should have taken them off). The boiling choux-fleur has to be al-dente, just so, and I lift the large cast iron Le Crueset pan from the hob and turn towards the sink so as to drain it. I take a step. A small fragment of cauliflower gets between floor and shoes and suddenly it's like my front foot is on roller skates. Down I go, doing the splits and desperately trying not to dump the scalding water over my legs, tummy and crotch. I end up in a sort of hyper-extended lunge whilst almost literally bending over backwards. The pain in my lower back as it went into spasm, took my breath away! But I didn't drop the dinner; slopped some water hither and thither. Was in pain during the meal and didn't sleep well. Ow! Ow! Ow!

Saturday comes. I've paid £20 quid, months back to enter a school's PTA fundraiser 10k because it means I can run it in bit of NT property not normally open to the public. "The Clandon Park 10k". Like an idiot I go. It takes 75 minutes to drive the 22 miles to the venue and my back is aching the whole time. TLH and I swap seats as soon as we arrive and I jog off to get my numbers whilst she parks the car. Only time for a five-minute-warm-up and off we all go. six odd km in and the runner two in front trips over a root and goes down hard, the following run falls over her and like a knob I try to hurdle of the pair. I make it but on landing POW! Back spasm and in two steps I'm on all fours. They pick themselves up, dust themselves off and run off. Not a word to me. Charming. I can only think of obscenities as I crank myself slowly back upright. Chuff this hurts. I shuffle forwards wincing with each step. The shuffle becomes a jog, the jog a trot and the trot after a few hundred metres becomes a run. Well what passes for a run when I'm doing 10k. And somewhere in the middle the pain stops. Leaving the woods I see the other two casualties on the other side of the field. "You are going down" I declare and I up the pace til the % max HR on my Garmin gets a little alarming. I dig in. I catch them. "You ok?" asks one as I pass. "Yer" is my grunted reply before I pass the second. "No thanks to you" I think.

I decide the last 3k will be run as an intervals session. Muller myself for 500m ease of for the next 500 then muller again. I overtake loads of other folk, and my back isn't hurting anymore and I give it some beans for the finish - which isn't easy as it involves running around bits of the campus though narrow gates and underpasses.

I finish. Gun time is 20 seconds slower than my trail 10k PB. Garmin/Strava says my time was around 40 seconds faster. And I haven't had a peep out of my back since I finished.

Excellent stuff, how was the cauliflower cheese?

:hungry:
 

Doyleyburger

Veteran
Location
NCE West Wales
Hi, I'm new to running, but been road cycling for a couple of years now and decided to start running a fortnight ago purely to help contribute to my cycling. I wasn't sure how it would benefit me on the bike but I can most certainly feel the difference. A round the block run for me is 2.7 miles and tonight I completed it with personal records all round (strava). I throw in a couple of hills now and again when I feel up to it which takes it to 3.2 miles. Running makes me ache for days after so I know my legs are getting a good workout. It now feels weird when it's been a few days without aching. I feel that on the bike, I can now push through the pain barrier easier than I could before, and what with living in west wales I need that extra boost to get up these hills we have. I have joined the strava 10k challenge for April which I will attempt at some point this weekend. Will be keeping up with the running though, thats for sure
 

Doyleyburger

Veteran
Location
NCE West Wales
A bit of advice if you don't mind please?

I started running about six months ago and everything was going well until a couple of months ago.

I started with a pain in my knee that stopped me running, and I left alone until the pain finally disappeared.

Starting running again brought the pain back straight away, and this morning my doctor reckons he can feel the start of arthritis coming on.

Has anyone managed to keep going with this, or did you have to do as my doctor says and give up?
Have you tried changing your running shoes. I know a few people that have had the odd niggle and a few pains. Experienced runners have suggested to find a shoe that supports better.....
Just a thought , hope your injury gets better
 
Nostell Priory # 40 this morning

Didn't feel like going really, as (to continue all my leg/foot problems this year), I felt a 'pop' in my thigh, as I ran to work yesterday morning
it was okay walking round all day at work, sore the first couple of miles homeward bound, then, not too bad for the other half of the route

I just pottered round, nothing special, just overtook quite a few at the start, then held my place
Nothing special 'pace-wise', took 18th, at a (self-timed) 23:24

No official times yet
 

SimonJKH

Blue collar cyclist
Location
Ipswich
Ipswich parkrun. Slightly miserable weather, and I kind of lost interest half way around when I realised our RD had waffled so long that my Garmin had timed out just before the start. But official times give me a respectable (for me) 23:13, so I'm glad I stuck with it.
 

GrumpyGregry

Here for rides.
Angmering Bluebell 10-miler y'day. 1:27:14, which, off a goal of 6 mins per km pace, was pretty darned satisfying. Even had time to stop and take some photo's.
 

stephec

Legendary Member
Location
Bolton
Have you tried changing your running shoes. I know a few people that have had the odd niggle and a few pains. Experienced runners have suggested to find a shoe that supports better.....
Just a thought , hope your injury gets better

Thanks DB, at the moment though it's starts to niggle even if I just walk for an hour.
 

SimonJKH

Blue collar cyclist
Location
Ipswich
Not sure about parkrun today. I got around in 22:01, beating my 22:30 pb handily... but my Garmin says the route was only 4.9km this week which takes a little of the gloss off :sad:
 
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