Anyone else had their flu jab yet?

[Daddy Pig]

I cant belive that this argument is still going on!
When I had the flu bad the doctor had to give me.... ahem... a special pill to bring my temperature down. Not very pleasant! Even to this day I wonder how he got it up there with both his hands on my shoulders.....



(A light hearted joke... its all true apart from the last part, he held onto my hips )

 

[classic33]

[QUOTE 4999275, member: 9609"]i have never been offered a flu jab, is it past a certain age when you get called in ?

I don't think I would bother anyway, I have very very little contact with other people now so presumably unlikely to catch a virus, and even when I did have contact with others I never got things like that anyway, don't think I have ever been unwell (and I never get punctures, ha ha famous last words)[/QUOTE]
The puncture fairy has marked your card!

 

[pawl]

Even when you get a specialists diagnosis it can sometimes be a little misleading.

Three years ago I was diagnosed with a malfunctioning Aortic heart valve following briefly passing out after exertion.Following the test I saw a youn registrar who advised an operation to replace the valve.I asked the likely consequences of not having the op.His response was you will die..Went back to myGP who is aware I am a keen cyclist .He was somewhat taken aback abought the response to my query.His opinion was I should have been advised that if I passed out while cycling I was in danger of ending up under the wheels of a following vehicle.
My point is ,if in doubt get clarification.

Had the op

 

[JoshM]

[QUOTE 4999275, member: 9609"]i have never been offered a flu jab, is it past a certain age when you get called in ?

I don't think I would bother anyway, I have very very little contact with other people now so presumably unlikely to catch a virus, and even when I did have contact with others I never got things like that anyway, don't think I have ever been unwell (and I never get punctures, ha ha famous last words)[/QUOTE]

Or if you have certain 'risk factors' like respiratory problems or certain cardiac problems, or you work with/care for at risk groups. I believe that, if offered, a 'flu vaccine should be taken even if the recipient is fit and well. The protection isnt just for recipient but those around them. The 'flu isn't likely to be seriously dangerous for me, but it is for grandfather and patients so I take the vaccine to protect them.

 

[bozmandb9]

Never had one, never would. Load of bollocks. The one proven benefit of the flu jab is to increase the profits of drug companies. To each their own, but I despair of people thinking that you need to inject this type of crap to stop you getting ill. Sensible lifestyle and healthy diet would be infinitely more effective!

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/10/11/flu-vaccination.aspx

 

[PK99]

Never had one, never would. Load of bollocks. The one proven benefit of the flu jab is to increase the profits of drug companies. To each their own, but I despair of people thinking that you need to inject this type of crap to stop you getting ill. Sensible lifestyle and healthy diet would be infinitely more effective!

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/10/11/flu-vaccination.aspx

Antivac quackery of the first order

Are you trolling or like Accy simply a gullible fool?

https://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/mercola.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Mercola

Other views
Other controversial views Mercola supports include:

• Dietary recommendations on food consumption that often put him at odds with mainstream dietary advice[13] such as encouraging the ingestion of unprocessed food, including unrefined coconut oil containing saturated fat in place of polyunsaturated fats.
• Advocacy on the labeling and health of genetically modified food.[20][21][22][23][24]
• Claims that microwaving food alters its chemistry, despite consensus that microwaving food does not adversely affect nutrient content compared to conventionally prepared food.[25][26][27][28]
• Opposition of homogenization, claiming it leads to xanthine oxidase absorption and oxidative stress, despite scientists considering the belief "tenuous and implausible",[29] stating "Experimental evidence has failed to substantiate, and in many cases has refuted, the xanthine oxidase/plasmalogen depletion hypothesis."[30]
• Questioning whether HIV is the cause of AIDS, claiming manifestations of AIDS (including opportunistic infections and death) may be the result of "psychological stress" brought on by the belief that HIV is harmful. The scientific community considers the evidence that HIV causes AIDS conclusive.[31][32][33][34] Mercola.com has also featured positive presentations of the claims of AIDS denialists, a fringe group which denies the existence of AIDS and/or the role of HIV in causing it.[1]
• Opposition to U.S. Food and Drug Administration recommendations, such as the use of most prescription drugs and immunizations for managing illness, and instead recommending consumption of unprocessed organic produce, elimination of most sugar and grains from the diet, removing household toxins from cleaning supplies and cosmetics, and energy psychology tools to address emotional challenges while also selling and promoting numerous dietary supplements.
• Claiming cancer risks arise from mobile phone radiation,[35] which is pseudoscientific.[36]
• Claims that many commercial brands of sunscreen increase, rather than decrease, the likelihood of contracting skin cancer with high UV exposure, and instead advocating the use of natural sunscreens, some of which he markets on his website. This view is not held by mainstream medical science; in 2011, the National Toxicology Program stated that "Protection against photodamage by use of broad-spectrum sunscreens is well-documented as an effective means of reducing total lifetime UV dose and, thereby, preventing or ameliorating the effects of UV radiation on both the appearance and biomechanical properties of the skin."[37]

 

[TVC]

Never had one, never would. Load of bollocks. The one proven benefit of the flu jab is to increase the profits of drug companies. To each their own, but I despair of people thinking that you need to inject this type of crap to stop you getting ill. Sensible lifestyle and healthy diet would be infinitely more effective!

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/10/11/flu-vaccination.aspx

I haven't read the whole piece, but I assume as some point he advises buying the products available from the page marked "Shop" instead.

 

[JoshM]

Sensible lifestyle and healthy diet would be infinitely more effective!

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/10/11/flu-vaccination.aspx

You're not wrong as far as it goes. As a healthy and generally fit person the best thing I can do is to eat properly, exercise, etc, though its certainly not a cure all. All it means is im less likely to get ill and if it doesn't stop me getting ill, it might reduce thd severity of the illness. Doesnt mean That I'm not putting my grandfather, who isn't healthy and generally fit at risk by not doing everything I can to reduce the risk of infecting him.

 

[Drago]

Problem is if Mrs D is ill with a relapse the flu could finish her, so it would be quite nice not to give it to her myself. On top of that, I can't look after her if I'm on my back, so the jab it is. Healthy lifestyle is all well and good, but it only takes you so far - no one survived the plague or smallpox because they went for a run three times a week and ate five a day.

 

[Julia9054]

Never had one, never would. Load of bollocks. The one proven benefit of the flu jab is to increase the profits of drug companies. To each their own, but I despair of people thinking that you need to inject this type of crap to stop you getting ill. Sensible lifestyle and healthy diet would be infinitely more effective!

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/10/11/flu-vaccination.aspx

Ok, I'll bite too.
No one is claiming that flu vaccinations are 100% effective (no vaccine is) because it the epidemiologists best guess as to which viral strains are going to be around each winter. For a healthy person a dose of flu will probably be more debilitating than life threatening (although see also the 1918 flu epidemic where it was mostly healthy, young adults that died).
There is no evidence at all that the vaccine causes harm and for people like me with respiratory conditions that mean a dose of flu may well be life threatening, the fewer people harbouring the virus, the less likely I am to encounter it. It is not just about your own health.

 

[PK99]

Mercola's an infamous quack.

Who supports and defends Andrew Wakefield on MMR/Autism.

 

[JoshM]

Problem is if Mrs D is ill with a relapse the flu could finish her, so it would be quite nice not to give it to her myself. On top of that, I can't look after her if I'm on my back, so the jab it is. Healthy lifestyle is all well and good, but it only takes you so far - no one survived the plague or smallpox because they went for a run three times a week and ate five a day.

Basically what I was trying to say, but more articulately put.

 

[cuberider]

I had a free jab last Friday. Apparently "Michigan Flu" is one of the strains this Winter.

 

[PK99]

Problem is if Mrs D is ill with a relapse the flu could finish her, so it would be quite nice not to give it to her myself. On top of that, I can't look after her if I'm on my back, so the jab it is. Healthy lifestyle is all well and good, but it only takes you so far - no one survived the plague or smallpox because they went for a run three times a week and ate five a day.

I'm currently on a fourth course in a month of antibiotics, trying to clear a very persistent chest infection, when I finally get it cleared I will be starting lifetime prophylactic antibiotics. Any viral infection (cold etc) I have had over the past number of years has settled on my chest as a bacterial infection and I've long had a Rescue Pack of Erythromycin with instructions from my consultant to start a course as soon as I feel the first symptoms. Full blown flu for me now could be very dangerous.

 

[Drago]

But its OK Mr 99. Simply adopt a healthy lifestyle and you'll be cured!

People forget that the flu can kill, and a century or more ago did so in massive numbers. They've become a teensy bit blase if they think a healthy lifestyle will save them.