Anyone else had their flu jab yet?

[Drago]

I made it to the end. So e things just aren't funny.

 

[swee'pea99]

[QUOTE 4999272, member: 45"]That link is spreading the same dangerous lies that you are.[/QUOTE]

Go to a fake news one and spread your lies there.

Whatever the rights & wrongs of flu jabs, it seems to me that some of the language being used in this thread is a tad inflammatory for our 'fun and friendly' community. To lie is to say something one knows to be untrue with the intention to mislead. I don't think that applies, in either of these instances. I'm all for preventing/discouraging the spread of (especially potentially dangerous) misinformation, but I would hope that it can be done with courtesy.

 

[petek]

One time I had a flu jab. Was sick as a dog and off work a week because of it. Never again.

 

[bozmandb9]

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I think these two are just scared of injections, something to do with not liking having a small prick...



....In the arm

No I don’t much like little pricks as it happens. ;-)

No problem with needles, injections giving blood etc.

 

[JoshM]

One time I had a flu jab. Was sick as a dog and off work a week because of it. Never again.

Y'know I get the sniffles after my 'flu jab. I know its not a 'live virus' and it's not making me ill but its happened enough times I'm certain it can't be coincidence. I've decided that in all likelihood the jab compromised my immune system just enough to let something else I was harbouring to pounce. I'm quite prepared to be told that's rubbish as its not based on anything other than conjecture and my limited knowledge.

 

[bozmandb9]

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Whatever the rights & wrongs of flu jabs, it seems to me that some of the language being used in this thread is a tad inflammatory for our 'fun and friendly' community. To lie is to say something one knows to be untrue with the intention to mislead. I don't think that applies, in either of these instances. I'm all for preventing/discouraging the spread of (especially potentially dangerous) misinformation, but I would hope that it can be done with courtesy.

Absolutely . And those refuting the alleged ‘lies’ containing links to peer reviewed studies, might make a better case if they tried using facts in place of vitriol or pathetic insults.

 

[Drago]

Y'know I get the sniffles after my 'flu jab. I know its not a 'live virus' and it's not making me ill but its happened enough times I'm certain it can't be coincidence. I've decided that in all likelihood the jab compromised my immune system just enough to let something else I was harbouring to pounce. I'm quite prepared to be told that's rubbish as its not based on anything other than conjecture and my limited knowledge.

Its not a coincidence, and its not a dose of flu. Its your immune system being stimulated by the vaccine and reacting, albeit in a very limited way, as it would if you caught the real thing. However, any other unrelated infections you catch at about the same time will be coincidence.

 

[PK99]

Y'know I get the sniffles after my 'flu jab. I know its not a 'live virus' and it's not making me ill but its happened enough times I'm certain it can't be coincidence. I've decided that in all likelihood the jab compromised my immune system just enough to let something else I was harbouring to pounce. I'm quite prepared to be told that's rubbish as its not based on anything other than conjecture and my limited knowledge.

Well known effect in some people, it's not an infection it's the way the body respond to the antibodies forming.

https://www.webmd.boots.com/cold-and-flu/flu-guide/flu-jab-side-effects

 

[JoshM]

Its not a coincidence, and its not a dose of flu. Its your immune system being stimulated by the vaccine.

As I said, I knew it wasn't the flu. I just put it down to the immune system 'dealing with' the vaccine - which is what its meant to do - thus leaving me exposed to more routine bugs that go about at this time of year, but your explanation works too.

I should say a few days of sniffles is a price I'm more than willing to pay to protect vulnerable people from the flu. I was just curious about why it happened. Now I know.

 

[petek]

Y'know I get the sniffles after my 'flu jab. I know its not a 'live virus' and it's not making me ill but its happened enough times I'm certain it can't be coincidence. I've decided that in all likelihood the jab compromised my immune system just enough to let something else I was harbouring to pounce. I'm quite prepared to be told that's rubbish as its not based on anything other than conjecture and my limited knowledge.

Once bitten twice shy here.

It was a work organised flu jab and work said. ( paraphrased) " Well you were probably starting with the flu anyway rather than the flu jab making you ill." Thing is I wasn't the only one sick and off work after flu-jab day. Work was a ghost town for upwards of a fortnight. Loads were off sick. I never had flu before nor -so far-since.

 

[bozmandb9]

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Antivac quackery of the first order

Are you trolling or like Accy simply a gullible fool?

https://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/mercola.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Mercola

Other views
Other controversial views Mercola supports include:

• Dietary recommendations on food consumption that often put him at odds with mainstream dietary advice[13] such as encouraging the ingestion of unprocessed food, including unrefined coconut oil containing saturated fat in place of polyunsaturated fats.
• Advocacy on the labeling and health of genetically modified food.[20][21][22][23][24]
• Claims that microwaving food alters its chemistry, despite consensus that microwaving food does not adversely affect nutrient content compared to conventionally prepared food.[25][26][27][28]
• Opposition of homogenization, claiming it leads to xanthine oxidase absorption and oxidative stress, despite scientists considering the belief "tenuous and implausible",[29] stating "Experimental evidence has failed to substantiate, and in many cases has refuted, the xanthine oxidase/plasmalogen depletion hypothesis."[30]
• Questioning whether HIV is the cause of AIDS, claiming manifestations of AIDS (including opportunistic infections and death) may be the result of "psychological stress" brought on by the belief that HIV is harmful. The scientific community considers the evidence that HIV causes AIDS conclusive.[31][32][33][34] Mercola.com has also featured positive presentations of the claims of AIDS denialists, a fringe group which denies the existence of AIDS and/or the role of HIV in causing it.[1]
• Opposition to U.S. Food and Drug Administration recommendations, such as the use of most prescription drugs and immunizations for managing illness, and instead recommending consumption of unprocessed organic produce, elimination of most sugar and grains from the diet, removing household toxins from cleaning supplies and cosmetics, and energy psychology tools to address emotional challenges while also selling and promoting numerous dietary supplements.
• Claiming cancer risks arise from mobile phone radiation,[35] which is pseudoscientific.[36]
• Claims that many commercial brands of sunscreen increase, rather than decrease, the likelihood of contracting skin cancer with high UV exposure, and instead advocating the use of natural sunscreens, some of which he markets on his website. This view is not held by mainstream medical science; in 2011, the National Toxicology Program stated that "Protection against photodamage by use of broad-spectrum sunscreens is well-documented as an effective means of reducing total lifetime UV dose and, thereby, preventing or ameliorating the effects of UV radiation on both the appearance and biomechanical properties of the skin."[37]

Use of insults does not help your case remotely. It merely points to lack of intelligence and decency, or ability to form a coherent argument.

Posting links refuting an argument are at least an attempt at reason I suppose, but your link has no more legitimacy than mine. Vested interests will always work to discredit those who criticise them.

Your assumption of superiority of your views indicates only your closed mind and inability to question what you hear or believe, not any better foundation or logic to your beliefs.

 

[PaulSB]

Can't you book in to a local pharmacist and get it done?

Sorry not clear. The GP is always desperate to get me in.

 

[vickster]

Yep. Don't normally but went to GP nurse for holiday jabs. Had one done, cost me a tenner. On steroids and going on long flights seemed a good idea

Was all up to date on holiday jabs though!

 

[Crackle]

Mod Note:

Wow, for such an innocuous title, this one is developing a high temperature quickly. Can we refrain from getting too personal please, that would be much appreciated for a Sunday afternoon.

 

[JoshM]

Mod Note:

Wow, for such an innocuous title, this one is developing a high temperature quickly. Can we refrain from getting too personal please, that would be much appreciated for a Sunday afternoon.

I See what you did there...