Applying for a search warrant... what do they need?

[EnPassant]

So the bottom line is?
If you own a mobile phone, an internet connection, a laptop, a tablet, a tv or any other device capable of viewing live tv (or catch up bbc) and don't have a licence you could wind up in court and you might be found guilty. Even if you never watched a thing?

Whether you do or not is at the discretion of the TVL people and whether they consider they might get a conviction?
The court will use the 2004 act, which despite it's being 12 years old now, doesn't yet have enough case law for anyone to reasonably predict the outcome?

I'd like to know if anyone has successfully been prosecuted in that 12 years for possession alone without either proof of use or admission of guilt.
TVL won't be publishing that any time soon I'll warrant. They are using fear and ambiguity to force people to get a licence to cover themselves.

 

[classic33]

So the bottom line is?
If you own a mobile phone, an internet connection, a laptop, a tablet, a tv or any other device capable of viewing live tv (or catch up bbc) and don't have a licence you could wind up in court and you might be found guilty. Even if you never watched a thing?

Whether you do or not is at the discretion of the TVL people and whether they consider they might get a conviction?
The court will use the 2004 act, which despite it's being 12 years old now, doesn't yet have enough case law for anyone to reasonably predict the outcome?

I'd like to know if anyone has successfully been prosecuted in that 12 years for possession alone without either proof of use or admission of guilt.
TVL won't be publishing that any time soon I'll warrant. They are using fear and ambiguity to force people to get a licence to cover themselves.

The way they've always done

 

[EnPassant]

The way they've always done

With the exception that previously it was because nobody believed in the detector vans and the fear was only for those who were actually watching as far as I'm aware. Now the fear even affects those who are doing nothing wrong at all.

 

[MontyVeda]

They'll use the 2003 Act, with the 2004 Regulations (which were last updated earlier this year). There is case law around 'installed' versus 'used', with people being convicted for having equipment installed. Part of the reason we had to get a license for work is that the 2003 Act, which had just come in, widened the scope from watching live broadcasts (effectively "used") to "installed or used".

What there isn't, at the moment, is the case law around the new wording in the updated Regulations, which widened the scope significantly to incorporate catch up TV and BBC iPlayer. That will come with time - and such is the way the law works...

it's catch up Tv on BBC iPlayer. Catch up TV on other platforms (eg 4od) doesn't require a licence.

 

[classic33]

Think back to when you bought a TV, if bought new, that duplicate book that was brought out(for delivery purposes) where all your details were entered.

You can also de-tune the TV and prove that it's not capable of receiving a live signal, CCTV, playback device only to get around the "no license at this address on our records" part.

Done that, handed her the remote and offerred her a tenner if she found a single broadcast channel from outside the building. I kept the tenner.(2010)

 

[fatblokish]

There was an informative documentary on the Beeb last night about just this subject. Why not give it a watch on iPlayer?

 

[Drago]

See the earlier post about your WiFi. Systems are being updated to see what you're doing.

They'd be stuffed with me, seeing as my Android box is cable'd up to the interweb

 

[classic33]

There was an informative documentary on the Beeb last night about just this subject. Why not give it a watch on iPlayer?

Catch up later, or wait for the repeat?

 

[Pat "5mph"]

You still need a licence for that, though.

Yes, true, but honestly I don't watch anything live.
I would pay the license if I did: I was never one for watching tv anyway, prefer reading and surfing the web.
Once I clicked on a link, a box appeared saying "you need a tv license to watch this, do you agree" so I did not proceed.
Wonder if they would have taken your word, because the options were "yes or no".

 

[DaveReading]

Wonder if they would have taken your word, because the options were "yes or no".

How would they know if you were lying ?

 

[MontyVeda]

...
Once I clicked on a link, a box appeared saying "you need a tv license to watch this, do you agree" so I did not proceed.
Wonder if they would have taken your word, because the options were "yes or no".

That's one thing that annoys me... why don't they say, please enter your post code and the big number from your TV licence to proceed. ??

 

[classic33]

That's one thing that annoys me... why don't they say, please enter your post code and the big number from your TV licence to proceed. ??

Tie the device in, possible second question.

 

[slowmotion]

Just ignore TVL. They are far too lazy to do anything interesting. They have a computer that auto-generates unpleasant letters every five months or so. They are really happy with this, and can sit around in their TV lounge watching Bake Off, looking forward to their inflated pay cheques at the end of the week.

 

[classic33]

Just ignore TVL. They are far too lazy to do anything interesting. They have a computer that auto-generates unpleasant letters every five months or so. They are really happy with this, and can sit around in their TV lounge watching Bake Off, looking forward to their inflated pay cheques at the end of the week.

Would that explain why the signatures varies so much?

 

[raleighnut]

What signal is your TV sending out for them to detect? Your WiFi is another matter.

CRT screens emit a radio frequency, just put an AM receiver (transistor radio) near one and you'll hear it as 'interference'.