Are we being forced to go electric?

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Alex321

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For which fast acceleration and a high top speed are not required.

So what?

This is something yo seem determined to make an issue, when it really isn't.

High acceleration may not be required, but it is an automatic adjunct to electric motors. It would be pointless modifying them to reduce the possible acceletarion.

It really is not similar to high acceleration ICE vehicles, which require much more power to accelerate hard due to the nature of ICE.
 

Alex321

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The nearest amazon depot is just shy of 40 miles away. DHL & DPD are 22 & 26 miles away by road. So you'd have to factor that distance in, twice, before you get to your delivery area. Then the deliveries don't have as much left for them to be done.

Are you going to go and tell DHL and DPD then, that their large fleet of electric vehicles aren't suitable (in your opinion) for the job they seem to be ding very well?
 

Alex321

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If legal ebike assist speed is regulated why are not EVs limited to 70mph.

Speed governors have been available for ICE for many years.

But apart from a few special cases, very rarely implemented, and certainly there has been no move to implement 70 governors across the board. Why should EVs be different?
 

Alex321

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Why should the customer have to bear the cost incurred by the retailer who is upgrading the fleet

For the same reason the customer has to bear the cost of anything else the business has to spend money on. If the price of raw materials goes up, so does the price of the end product. If the price of energy goes up, so does the end product. I don't see what the difference is here.
 

classic33

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Are you going to go and tell DHL and DPD then, that their large fleet of electric vehicles aren't suitable (in your opinion) for the job they seem to be ding very well?
If they ask, I'll tell them.

You'll have noted that DHL's trial of the Velove Armadillo didn't result in their use being taken up.
 

Jameshow

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So what?

This is something yo seem determined to make an issue, when it really isn't.

High acceleration may not be required, but it is an automatic adjunct to electric motors. It would be pointless modifying them to reduce the possible acceletarion.

It really is not similar to high acceleration ICE vehicles, which require much more power to accelerate hard due to the nature of ICE.

EV still need power to accelerate.. if you drive it hard the mpkw will drop just like mpg!
 
So will we see a 300 passenger airplane fly under electric power in my lifetime

A lot depends on how old you are I guess.
 

Jenkins

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Are you going to go and tell DHL and DPD then, that their large fleet of electric vehicles aren't suitable (in your opinion) for the job they seem to be ding very well?

A lot depends on where the distribution hub is. Round here Amazon have a hub in Ipswich so, with a (reasonable) 100 mile range they can service most towns within a 30 mile by road distance, do the local deliveries and still get back to base. The local hub for DPD is in Thetford (40 miles from Ipswich) so they would need to add another hub closer to here.

This is where the Yodel/Evri model could work for electric. A big (diesel for the moment) van drops all their parcels of at multiple small distribution points in the various towns, where they are then collected by the individual couriers on their own cars/vans for final delivery - and it is this final section where the use of electric vehicles/vans/cargo bikes would make sense.
 
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