Are we being forced to go electric?

[CXRAndy]

Last night I topped up our Model 3. With cheape electric. Total cost £1.92

 

[fossyant]

I've no real need for a car these days - I'm back to cycling to work when in the office, so no need to waste a chunk of cash on a car (purchased or leased) I don't use much. That's the way forward, not more cars. I'll stick with my 20 year old car I've owned since nearly new.

Cycling to work and low use of car is far beter than any electric car. Simple. Electric cars aren't the answer

Leasing a small EV is over £300 and a Tesla nearer £700 per month. That's a lot of money for what ? No need.

 

[fossyant]

Here is another, google sent me a summary of my time line for last year. I've actually not travelled outside the North West - furthest was North Wales. At least with lockdown it made us think where and when we sould be making wasteful journies.

 

[cougie uk]

I've no real need for a car these days - I'm back to cycling to work when in the office, so no need to waste a chunk of cash on a car (purchased or leased) I don't use much. That's the way forward, not more cars. I'll stick with my 20 year old car I've owned since nearly new.

Cycling to work and low use of car is far beter than any electric car. Simple. Electric cars aren't the answer

Leasing a small EV is over £300 and a Tesla nearer £700 per month. That's a lot of money for what ? No need.

Oh I completely agree. My work was just over a mile away from home for decades so I walked or ran or cycled.
My wife's job is all over the place so it would be hard for her to do without.

Much better without a car if you can !

 

[CXRAndy]

Here is another, google sent me a summary of my time line for last year. I've actually not travelled outside the North West - furthest was North Wales. At least with lockdown it made us think where and when we sould be making wasteful journies.

You're right regarding car use. We all need to use our vehicles far less, especially for local journeys. Im fortunate not to need to leave my house to conduct business. I do cycle upto the local coop for basics regularly. When we move ove nearest coop will be 8 miles away on flat terrain. Again I or the wife will try and cycle. However when we do go out in our car, we wont be polluting, others from tailpipe emissions. The savings currently are amazing, but these wont last. This is part of our reason to move home. More space to have solar and possibly wind energy

 

[Noodle Legs]

I love how they pioneer this as new technology and the future however as a child born in the late 70s and growing up in the 80s I’m pretty sure I can recall milk being delivered in glass bottles on milk floats powered by big chloride bardic batteries…..

I’m not quite convinced by it all just yet as I don’t think the technology is quite there but very curious going forward as to how it pans out. As a worker in one of the electricity distribution companies I’m very curious as to how the infrastructure to support all the charging points and heat pumps is going to be beefed up. I’d be very keen to see how a lot of these houses on terraced streets in large towns and cities with no off road parking are going to go on, particularly when a lot of these streets run on single phase (240v) cables….. and let’s not get started on commercial vehicles!

I can’t help but think that hydrogen may be a better option if they can get around issues like storing it safely and finding a cheaper and more viable way of extracting it from water as opposed to carbon based gases like methane. If they crack this then it would be a game changer. There would be no environmental impact mining the lithium or what have you for the batteries, I would imagine that the byproduct of burning hydrogen would be water vapour which can then be used to create more hydrogen.

A bit pie in the sky maybe but food for thought.

 

[simongt]

Saw a Telsa saloon parked up today and as far as I could make out, there were no 'normal instruments', just a large computer type screen in the centre of the dashboard area. Do I understand that is the new trendy type of instrument panel - ?

 

[MrGrumpy]

Saw a Telsa saloon parked up today and as far as I could make out, there were no 'normal instruments', just a large computer type screen in the centre of the dashboard area. Do I understand that is the new trendy type of instrument panel - ?

it’s a Tesla thing , some what marmite

 

[midlife]

Our petrol mini has no dials, just an lcd screen. I think all new minis are the same.

 

[figbat]

Our petrol mini has no dials, just an lcd screen. I think all new minis are the same.

Except the ‘screen’ in front of the steering wheel comprises a conventional needle dial on one side, a fixed set of lights on the other with only the speedometer bit in the middle being an actual screen, with (low resolution) graphics on it. It is really quite the disappointment compared to other cars.

 

[midlife]

Looks like this.....

 

[CXRAndy]

Saw a Telsa saloon parked up today and as far as I could make out, there were no 'normal instruments', just a large computer type screen in the centre of the dashboard area. Do I understand that is the new trendy type of instrument panel - ?

It will have been a model 3. In the UK since 2019. It has one large landscape screen to control vast majority of features. The steering wheel has voice control and rotary thumb, toggle controls. It has conventional indicator, drive stalks incorporating wash/wipe features.

Model S has two screens, a very large portrait screen and a LCD driver display.

The 2022 Model S will come with a yoke steering wheel with more features from touch control in the steering wheel.

 

[fossyant]

it’s a Tesla thing , some what marmite

You'll find many cars manufacturers are doing this now.

 

[figbat]

Looks like this.....

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Yes, only the central bit is an LCD screen.

 

[cougie uk]

Much prefer switches and knobs but this isn't just an electric thing.