Cerdic
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Well, if you will drive a lorry!
’Normal’ cars don’t cost a bag for brakes! Parts for posh German stuff are notorious for being overpriced…
Are we being forced to go electric?
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Well, if you will drive a lorry!
’Normal’ cars don’t cost a bag for brakes! Parts for posh German stuff are notorious for being overpriced…
Only if you pay Stealer/Dealer prices. I saved £700 notes buying the same parts from Eurocarparts instead of Audi . This is going back many years ago.
FishFright
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How much is 10 years of engine services , filters and parts ? I've no idea
Alex321
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Well if you will drive something so big and expensive, you can expect expensive parts.
For a more average car, they may be more than @gzoom was suggesting, but still nowhere near £1000.
For my Vauxhall Insignia, you can get rear brake & pad set for £92 , and front for £120, so £212 for all four wheels. Fitting will probably add an hour's labour charge.
Cerdic
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Battery life is an interesting question. Experience of other batteries, from the old Evereadys to the ones in your phone and stuff, suggests that batteries will die at some point. So far, however, the ones in electric cars seem to be holding up remarkably well.
A couple of years back, Renault had some scheme that suggested that you would need new batteries after seven years at a cost of six grand. It didn’t go down well. Nobody wants to spend six bags to keep a seven year old hatchback on the road!
Really it’s still early days for older EVs, there aren’t enough about to make a proper judgement yet…
A couple of years back, Renault had some scheme that suggested that you would need new batteries after seven years at a cost of six grand. It didn’t go down well. Nobody wants to spend six bags to keep a seven year old hatchback on the road!
Really it’s still early days for older EVs, there aren’t enough about to make a proper judgement yet…
vickster
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Much less than the 30k at least it would cost me to change to an EV right now (even if there was one I wanted)
... I reckon I spend maybe £150-300 a year on servicing (last year was an exception as I needed a new water pump, didn't spend anything in 2020).
Insurance on a 30k+ EV would likely be somewhat more too than my £7k Skoda
midlife
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Was thinking about what youngest son will do for transport in the future.
Wants to learn to drive in an automatic / electric car next year, not many driving schools around our area that fits the bill.
What to get if he passes his test? Maybe the government should start manufacturing a "peoples car".... Cheap, electric and suitable for local commuting. A sort of modern Trabant?
Wants to learn to drive in an automatic / electric car next year, not many driving schools around our area that fits the bill.
What to get if he passes his test? Maybe the government should start manufacturing a "peoples car".... Cheap, electric and suitable for local commuting. A sort of modern Trabant?
That is why EVs are so amazing, you can have crazy performance with hardly any more cost than 'normal' cars. Our 3ton+ SUV, with a 0-60 time of sub 5 seconds costs me £0 VED, 3.5p/mile in fuel, apart from brakes only 1 air con service in 5 years, and only used one set of brake pads in 50k miles. Even insurance is cheap at £350/year.
The full fat 'plaid' version will do 0-60 in 2.4 seconds, outrun most hypercars and have the same running costs as my car.
In comparison a Porsch Cayenne turbo with similar performance will be doing sub 20mpg which is 30p+/mile in fuel, get through at least twice the number of brakes due to a lack of regenerative braking, and need yearly servicing.
EVs are the holy grill of performance cars, fast, but also cheap to run
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Cerdic
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Looks like help is on its way…
https://www.euronews.com/next/2021/...-vehicles-and-they-have-their-sights-on-europ
The one pictured in the article sells for about £4 K in China.
I thought this bit from the article was interesting…
“Current European Union regulations greatly favour the profitability of heavier and pricier EV’s, leaving almost no room for smaller European cars to make a decent profit.”
…the power of vested interests at work?
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If your car is so fast and heavy why is it much easier on brakes than the equivalent petrol car?That is why EVs are so amazing, you can have crazy performance with hardly any more cost than 'normal' cars. Our 3ton+ SUV, with a 0-60 time of sub 5 seconds costs me £0 VED, 3.5p/mile in fuel, apart from brakes only 1 air con service in 5 years, and only used one set of brake pads in 50k miles. Even insurance is cheap at £350/year.
The full fat 'plaid' version will do 0-60 in 2.4 seconds, outrun most hypercars and have the same running costs as my car.
In comparison a Porsch Cayenne turbo with similar performance will be doing sub 20mpg which is 30p+/mile in fuel, get through at least twice the number of brakes due to a lack of regenerative braking, and need yearly servicing.
EVs are the holy grill of performance cars, fast, but also cheap to run
I know nothing about Electric vehicles as my interests lie firmly with old classic stuff so I'm not trying to be argumentative. I assume this car of yours is quite expensive to buy in the first place?
Just like the early combustion engine vehicles. Didn't stop those being made and sold by the millions
figbat
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Because an EV does most of its retardation through regenerative braking, using the motor as a generator which slows the car down as it puts energy back into the battery. Under most conditions you can drive without touching the brake pedal as the motor will bring the car to a complete stop just by lifting off. I rarely use the brake pedal although the car does sometimes blend in real brakes with regenerative braking, particularly if regen is not available (eg the battery is already full) and also to balance front/rear wheel braking (mine is only FWD).
cougie uk
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Do you always buy brand new ? That's a huge cost there then.
vickster
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Not bought a brand new car for many years (only once actually in 1997), but used they don't seem much off the list price (I'd want one no more than a couple of years old). I certainly wouldn't do on a lease or the never never
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