Argument with a polis

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Picture the scene. I, on enormous dirty great cargo bike, riding happily along in a roadside cyclelane. Old Poogeot 306 first overtakes way too close and then nips in to a parking space in just front of me. Obviously I smack the door mirror with my hand as I pass.

All fine and dandy, point made and on I go. But no sooner have I hit it than I hear a polis siren woop behind me and I get the whole Starsky & Hutch treatment, lights on and squeezed to the kerb. Wait over there he says, since we are at a pinch point. So I wheel the beast on to the pavement and wait while he parks up.

Now. My mum's family were high up ones in Scotland and I was brung up to respect them. In the past I would have been all; 'Yes officer. No officer. Sorry officer. Moment of anger officer. Won't happen again officer'. And would have been sent on my way with no more than a flea in my ear.

Plod; 'What did you do that for?
Me; 'She overtook too closely and then cut dangerously in front of me. Didn't you see?
Plod; Yes I saw, but that's no reason to damage someone's car'.
Me; I didn't damage her car. Modern door morrors are designed to flip back when they are hit, a feature which protects them from damage'.
Plod; 'But you could have damaged her car and then you'd be facing a charge of criminal damage'
Me; 'I didn't damage her car'.
Plod; Yes you did'.
Me; I didn't damage her car.
Plod; You don't know that'.
Me; 'Yes I do'.

At which point another polis car stops with his lights flashing and approaches. The litle old lady has also approached and butts in.
Lady; 'Please don't arrest him officer it was my fault'
Plod; 'Thank you madam, please go and get back in your car I'll be over to talk to you in a moment'
Lady; Yes but I just don't want him getting into trouble, it was my fault that his bike hit my car'
Me; 'Thanks', ~smiles~. And she wanders off. original polis hands me on to incoming polis and wanders off after lady.
New polis; 'What happened?
Me; 'I smacked her door mirror with my hand'.

There follows a conversation identical to the one I had with Plod. Which ends; 'Those mirrors can cost £25 you know'
Me; 'Yes I know'. I drive a car.

By this time I'm getting riled. There has been no discussion of the threat of danger posed to me by her incompetent driving and so I launch into a softy spoken tirade. I say; My family and I ride up and down this road every single day, and every single day some muppet in a car threatens our safety. You lot don't appear to be making road safety for vulnerable road users a priority. The polis in York have even publicly stated that they will not enforce the newly installed 20mph zone (about 200 yards back in the direction I came). So I will not be changing my habits. If cars continue to threaten my safety I'll continue to knock on their windows and bash their door mirrors.

Plod has returned by now, New polis leaves. Plod says; 'There are better ways of dealing with situations like this you know'.
Me; 'Like what for example?'
Plod; 'The Station is just here, you could record their registration numbers and report them.
Me; 'If I recored every incident I could be here three or four times a day. The vast majority of incidents don't occur right outside the Station. And I have neither the time nor the inclination. I'm happy to keep doing what I'm doing, and if my actions end me up in court I'll take my chances. But frankly I'm amazed that you seem much more concerned about criminal damage that did not occur than her clearly dangerous driving. That speaks volumes to me about your priorities.
Plod; 'If that lady changes her mind you'll be in court on charges of criminal damage.
Me; Except that she won't will she? And I haven't actually damaged anything have I? So that's very unlikely.
Plod; But you can't go around kicking cars in.
Me; 'Who's talking about kicking cars in?'
As he turns to walk away I say; 'Did you have a word with her about her driving?
I didn't hear his response.
 

Miquel In De Rain

No Longer Posting
Normally I would probably swear,not into bashing as it can cause trouble (not that swearing doesn't) but I see why people do it.Also the plod thing on criminal damage which didn't happen over road safety is a bit of a concern.
 

Col5632

Guru
Location
Cowdenbeath
Seems like a total joke to me, she admits to it being her fault but they still make you look like the bad guy, i would have been the same with them if i was you tbh :thumbsup:
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Thought you'd be spread eagled over the bonnet for a minute. £25 for a wing mirror - mr plod obviously hasn't a clue.

You couldn't make it up - obviously a sloooowww day for business.
 

Cubist

Still wavin'
Location
Ovver 'thill
My MIL moans about the police in York. She doesn't ride a bike any more though. Hitting mirrors though? Seven years' bad luck if you break one.
 
It's Mickle, it's seven years bad luck if he looks in one.
 

MrJamie

Oaf on a Bike
Some police dont seem to believe in two way conversations and prefer their one sided educational lecture not to be interupted or undermined by reason :P

Im not sure slapping cars of poor drivers is a good idea though, but if youre willing to take the risk of someone raging at you, fairplay :smile:
 

400bhp

Guru
You don't have to be clever to be a police officer, but you need to be Clever with a capital C.
 

Jezston

Über Member
Location
London
You get the officers details? Perhaps a letter to the chief of police, cc'ing in your MP and the local paper might be in order - worth a shot? Bit of drama never hurt anyone ;)
 

Manonabike

Über Member
I would have probably knocked on her window and had a word about her driving..... that is what I have done in the past. Sometimes you get an apology as they don't realise they put your safety at risk. Sometimes they will say I saw you and gave you enough room, in which case you can have a longer conversation ^_^

What Jezstan suggested seems like a good idea to me. I would have tried to get the No plate or the ladies details before encouraging the police officer to arrest you. Having the chance to explain the events to a superior officer might have been very interesting indeed. Had I recorded the incident then I would have beg the police officer to arrest me ^_^

I have never had a bad experience with a police officer but I'm sure there are many that are less than capable to do a good job.
 
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