Avoiding recession

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fudgepanda

Active Member
Location
Manchester U.K.
Although I'm really happy with my Bianchi, I've been experiencing pangs of guilt of late. I bought an Italian bike made in Taiwan with Japanese gears and brakes; in fact most of us probably bought foreign made machines. However, since taking up cycling I've discovered there is a whole industry, although not on the Chinese scale, in this country.

As a result I've bought a Lusso HT70 waterproof jacket which, so far, has been great at keeping the rain out and feels nice as it's a soft shell kind of construction and last week I found a Caradice Super C saddlepack. The jacket was £49 versus its £60 list price and the bag was £25 in comparison with its normal £36. It made me wonder how much we just assume anything made here is automatically expensive and therefore we're doomed to buying yet another product with a made in China tag.

So, jacket made in Manchester and bag from Lancashire. My only concern is that they perhaps need to look at styling the products a bit more interestingly as most of their competitors have more showroom appeal, but, even allowing for that fact that both were discounted (one from Ribble) I don't see how I can buy much better for less. For example, Topeak saddle packs are cheaper, but are perhaps a quarter of the size yet more than 25% of the price. Quite a lot of the wet weather gear on the market is actually showerproof rather than waterproof and those that are don't seem to be appreciably cheaper.

So as a method of assuaging my guilt, I'm going to buy the country out of recession by buying British clothing, lights and bikes................................if I can afford it.

Anybody fancy joining me?
 

wisdom

Guru
Location
Blackpool
+1 if i can.
 

festival

Über Member
No thanks, seems like you will be making life difficult for yourself for little gain, if any.
 
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fudgepanda

Active Member
Location
Manchester U.K.
Apart from a degree of smug self satisfaction you may well be right, but there's no point in moaning (as many do) about the state of things....there's no jobs/haven't had a pay rise since 1926/why doesn't somebody do something about it....when it's just as easy for us to do something about it.

I'm still very new at this cycling thing, but I've come across some very serious cyclists who wear Lusso gear, including two elderly chaps who were part way through cycling from Morecambe to Whitby in November. In the style stakes the likes of Assos, Santini and Giordano are well ahead, but I'm not sure they do a better job at keeping the weather out. I'm not keen on the appearance of Brooks saddles but there's no denying the quality. A colleague of mine has covered well over a thousand miles on his Will's Wheels bike with its Brooks perch since December and it's looking far better than his Cannondale.

I can only speak for myself, but I don't mind paying a little more for products made here rather than in the far east because there's no point in moaning about "where all the jobs have gone and isn't it terrible about those people in Bangladesh/the pollution in China is awful, why doesn't somebody do something"
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
Hope are definitely worth supporting; an excellent company with legendary afer-sales service.

Lusso is about 200 yards from my office, very discrete and I think most of the stock is made overseas and finished here. I had some Lusso bibshorts; they were good but too short in the leg.
 

vickster

Squire
Two of my bikes are from British companies - Pearson and Whyte. I realise the frames and all of the components etc are made overseas, however the companies employ many staff in the UK - management, designers, marketing, distribution, finance, shop staff, mechanics etc.

These were strong reasons for my selecting these bikes over those made by the US superbrands (as well as wanting something different)
 
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fudgepanda

Active Member
Location
Manchester U.K.
I made an appointment to visit Lusso today as they're only about a 25 minutes from where I live. I could have just ordered on line and waited for the delivery but thought I'd pick something up instead. Despite the fact they aren't set up for customer visits we were made welcome and it was well worth the trip as it enabled me to see some of their products in the flesh so to speak. Even though their website is much improved over the old one, it meant I was able to touch the fabrics, and I've got to say......they feel very good to me. The clothes don't have Garmin or Sky all over them but some, especially the jerseys and jackets have some great, very technical fabrics, and, to my eyes, are not only far better looking than I expected, but are as good as any others out there. As for costs, there will always be an advantage to making garments in Pakistan or China, but the prices are also below, in some cases well below, other European made cycling clothes.

Lusso don't have the advantage of the huge buying power of some companies so margins are probably tight. I'd ordered some MAX Repel Bib Tights and despite Doreen advising me they might be a bit warm for summer, I went ahead anyway. She also told me that if they were too long (and they are a little bit) I could have them shortened.

As for being made abroad and finished here, Globatti, I saw the rolls of fabric and managed to get a glimpse of machinists actually making the garments.

We ended up with the tights, a jacket for Mrs. Fudgepanda and a pair of tee-shirts. Obviously I've yet to try them out for an extended period, but if they're anything like the HT-70 jacket I bought some time ago, they'll be well worth the money. Apart from the odd bits and pieces I'll be buying all my gear from Lusso in the future.
 

gbb

Squire
Location
Peterborough
I still have a HT70 jacket thats consigned to use when looks don't matter, but ive had that jacket for several years, done several years commuting with it...it was worth every penny IME.

Personally, i don't buy stuff purely, or even largely on looks, the HT70 doubtless isnt the best looking jacket, but its not trying to be. Its a mid to low price, general purpose jacket. Nothing more, nothing less, but mine certainly was durable.
 
It is worth looking in more detail at where products are manufactured. Many that have a British logo are still made overseas (Taiwan, China etc.), they are purely put together in the UK with finishing done here. One example, perhaps a bit simplistic, is Boardman. British brand, Union Flag on the bikes etc, but nearly all the components and frame made in Taiwan.
 

derrick

The Glue that binds us together.
Italian clothing
Canadian frame
French wheels
Italian gears and saddle
GPS American
Ain;t got anything British on the bike, but i think i may have some British tools:blush:
 
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