Awful cycle lane

[Andy Roadie]

http://goo.gl/maps/9dLs2

I ride this road regularly. It's downhill and I can easily achieve over 20 mph here and take primary for the pinch point. A few times I have had the horn abuse and the " Get in the effiing cycle lane" crap.
I feel the design sends a bad message to motorists.
What do you think?

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

They're probably just trying to reprogram their satnavs while texting her back home about dinner and accidentally hitting the horn.

Feck em, the brakes work on the cars I drive. Hitting the horn really doesn't help when you have to slow down.

Oh, yes, completely the wrong signal.

 

[downfader]

Holy crap. Who ever designed that needs sectioning. Thats a suicidal option....

 

[ianrauk]

I would never use that cycle lane.
I would take primary every time through the pinch point and if a card driver doesn't like it then they will get the finger and the hard stare of death.

 

[L14M]

Thats pathetic, for a start, it is just asking you come off if you did follow it just getting up onto the pavement. You'll never be able re-join cleanly!

 

[ColinJ]

I think it is ridiculous and is asking for trouble!

We have something very similar a few miles up the road from here on the way to Burnley. To me, these things say '"Get the bloody cyclists out of the way of the important road users"! The Burnley Road one also potentially puts the cyclist in danger of bumping into children emerging from the play area on the left!

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

Will someone remind me what the point of pinch points is? I thought they were to stop motors overtaking when it wasn't safe to stray out of lane. Or to calm traffic. Harassing cyclists doesn't sound like calmed traffic to me. Diverting bikes off the road at a pinch point is a failure - a catastrophic failure - on the highway engineers' part.

 

[ColinJ]

Will someone remind me what the point of pinch points is? I thought they were to stop motors overtaking when it wasn't safe to stray out of lane. Or to calm traffic. Harassing cyclists doesn't sound like calmed traffic to me. Diverting bikes off the road at a pinch point is a failure - a catastrophic failure - on the highway engineers' part.

I assume that they put the one in on the road I linked to to provide a refuge in the middle of the road to make it safer for parents and children to cross to the play area and avoid the scenario that Sara is getting hassled about over on CC of people standing in the middle of the road wondering what to do.

I think that having a cyclist in the way of any vehicles would be a good way of slowing them down as they approached the pinch point. Clearing the way just suggests 'Road clear, drive faster"!

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

I assume that they put the one in on the road I linked to to provide a refuge in the middle of the road to make it safer for parents and children to cross to the play area and avoid the scenario that Sara is getting hassled about over on CC of people standing in the middle of the road wondering what to do.

I think that having a cyclist in the way of any vehicles would be a good way of slowing them down as they approached the pinch point. Clearing the way just suggests 'Road clear, drive faster"!

The one in the link didn't look like a pedestrian refuge to me, more like a ''Hey you guys, remember what side of the road you're supposed to be on!'' type of pinch point. I keep thinking that all that blue paint that Barclays no longer has a use for should be placed in a lead-up strip before pinch points and left turns, meaning "No fecking overtaking anything, be you a big beast or a bicyclueless!"

 

[Boothy]

http://goo.gl/maps/9dLs2

I ride this road regularly. It's downhill and I can easily achieve over 20 mph here and take primary for the pinch point. A few times I have had the horn abuse and the " Get in the effiing cycle lane" crap.
I feel the design sends a bad message to motorists.
What do you think?

I see your awful cycle path and raise you with this...

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=wa...=qED6VYPtv0jjAKJZc_PeyA&cbp=12,227.62,,0,8.24

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

[QUOTE 2848198, member: 45"]It's a crossing point. Dropped kerb and far between the bollards. It's also marked out for cyclists to use.[/quote]
I stand corrected. On a traffic island....

 

[PedalCat]

I see your awful cycle path and raise you with this...

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=wa3 6gr&hl=en&ll=53.432153,-2.587409&spn=0.000026,0.017316&sll=53.068117,-2.990513&sspn=0.013022,0.034633&t=h&hnear=Birchwood WA3 6GR, United Kingdom&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.43213,-2.587545&panoid=qED6VYPtv0jjAKJZc_PeyA&cbp=12,227.62,,0,8.24

Well that's just got be ignored for the pathetic construction that it is.

 

[400bhp]

http://goo.gl/maps/9dLs2

I ride this road regularly. It's downhill and I can easily achieve over 20 mph here and take primary for the pinch point. A few times I have had the horn abuse and the " Get in the effiing cycle lane" crap.
I feel the design sends a bad message to motorists.
What do you think?

It is a turd cycle "lane".

Ignore [both the cycle lane and the morons in cars beeping their horn].

See ian's reply.

 

[BlackPanther]

What a great idea. Let's encourage a cyclist to get off the road when there's probably a line of cars behind him. THEN when he's carrying a fair amount of speed, get him to rejoin the road into the aforementioned line of cars. I wouldn't touch that cycle lane with a bargepole. Insane!

I suppose what the designers are hoping for is that cylists pull off the road, let the traffic pass, and then 10 minutes later when the roads clear, rejoin.

A very real danger here is this. Every so often you'll get a complete moron motorist who, rather than wait until after the island, will actually overtake on the wrong side of the island. I've witnessed this a few times, and for pedestrians crossing it's just about the most unexpected and therefor most dangerous of scenarios. Indeed, I did once report a lorry driver for doing this (I had video proof.)

 

[BrynCP]

A very real danger here is this. Every so often you'll get a complete moron motorist who, rather than wait until after the island, will actually overtake on the wrong side of the island. I've witnessed this a few times, and for pedestrians crossing it's just about the most unexpected and therefor most dangerous of scenarios. Indeed, I did once report a lorry driver for doing this (I had video proof.)

Had this a few weeks ago; the driver sounded his horn, so I expected him to squeeze through with me, it's the norm. But no, he went the other side. So very dangerous to oncoming traffic and pedestrians. What really got me is that it's a 20mph zone, and I was going at 20mph anyway, so I wasn't affecting his legal speed at all - would he have done the same thing if I was in my car doing 20mph?