B****** Light Bulbs

[Archie_tect]

All we can do is try... the fact that that isn't enough is immaterial... we can wreck things easily enough but putting things back as they were before we came along is impossible - the whole process has moved on regardless.

Planetary control is way beyond man's meddling ways. The world will continue, with or without humans on it.... wonder what put me in this fatalist frame of mind? ...

 

[SavageHoutkop]

And if you've got a dishwasher and more than one TV in your house your tree-hugging opinion means zero to me.

No tv and no dishwasher...?

 

[gbb]

Change a light bulb, save the world. I'm sorry but it's rubbish.

Electrician appliances do not contribute to global warming, at all. The problem is generating electricity my dirty methods. The governments could have invested in clean alternatives decades ago, but they didn't, because they put business dollars before the ecology. And they still do.

But now they want to be 'seen' to be doing something so light bulbs get the chop. Do they hit air travel? No, they build a new terminal at Heathrow. Do they do anything much other than talk about change? Not really.

So don't give me this crap about how the Polar Bears will all die because of my old light bulbs, it's nonsense. And if you've got a dishwasher and more than one TV in your house your tree-hugging opinion means zero to me.

Part of me agrees...it's tinkering around the edges of a problem so monumental, its almost impossible to deal with it all.
But you have to start somewhere. This, it could be argued (energy saving lamps) is something we can do at home, and it build peoples awareness.
It may be relatively pointless on its own, but it sows a seed.

 

[marinyork]

And if you've got a dishwasher and more than one TV in your house your tree-hugging opinion means zero to me.

I certainly don't have a dishwasher and as it happens do have one tv.

 

[Davidc]

your tree-hugging opinion means zero to me.

North Lanarkshire's in the highlands I believe so probably a fair bit above sea level - who cares about the rest of the world.

 

[Mr Pig]

North Lanarkshire's in the highlands I believe so probably a fair bit above sea level.

Yeah, I'm fine. If I flood the rest of you best build an ark!

It's in Scotland, which may a well the highlands as far as most of you are concerned I guess ;0)

But I don't suppose you want to listen to me either?

No, although it has nothing to do with your green credentials ;0)

But you have to start somewhere

Ok. What about a limit on air travel? Oh no hang on. That would annoy voters and hurt taxes...I mean business.

 

[Davidc]

Ok. What about a limit on air travel? Oh no hang on. That would annoy voters and hurt taxes...I mean business.

Why we urgently need a Green government.

 

[Mr Pig]

Why we urgently need a Green government.

Well this one make me feel ill.

 

[Arch]

Ok. What about a limit on air travel? Oh no hang on. That would annoy voters and hurt taxes...I mean business.

Just because governments aren't taking all the steps they could, doesn't make the ones they do take worthless. If you're drowning in a lake, I don't sit back and say, well, I can't find a boat to go out to him, so there's no point in throwing him a lifebelt.

Well, I might, but I think we've already established our personal emnity.

There are plenty of 'unpopular' policies I'd happily see brought in, alas my one vote doesn't seem to count for much in our system. It doesn't stop me voting though.

 

[wafflycat]

I disagree profoundly with the OP but I'm not going through this for the nth time. If one does a little bit of work one can find energy saving light bulbs in many different colours, in different fittings, different shapes and sizes and different flavours. My micro spirals work very well for reading, I actually prefer them. The 26W in my bedroom also works much better than 100W light bulbs, I even managed to convince some former Japanese housemates in the end of that Mr Pig and they probably made you look like a yoghurt knitter in comparison .

Chateau Wafflycat has been lit by low-energy bulbs for years. The day we moved in I changed all bulbs for low-energy ones as and when the old incandescent bulbs popped. The house as all sorts of shapes and types of low-energy bulbs in it, from microspirals in bedside lights, to low-energy spots in the kitchen & bathroom ceilings and all sorts inbetween. And yes, it's true that the new ones get to full brightness almost immediately, much better than the older oens. Then again, I didn't actually have much of a problem with the old ones either.

 

[Arch]

Also, anyone using the old fashioned type obviously has more money than sense, since the low energy ones cost less to run...

 

[wafflycat]

Been using low energy ones since they first came out [and were quite expensive], not had any problems with them - but have noticed a significant improvement in light output over the last 15 years.

Only had to change them when they have got broken [changing duvet covers, wii controllers!!!], so are very reliable once fitted.

It is just a case of getting used to them.

BTW we have migrain sufferers in the house, and the amount of migrain attacks are no more than when we had conventional bulbs.

I get migraines. The low-energy bulbs have had no effect on the number of, duration or severity of migraines I get.

 

[simonali]

My TV uses less than 0.5W when left on standby so I'll sleep easy at night on the occasions I can't be arsed to get out of bed to turn it off.

 

[Morrisette]

I don't mind the energy bulbs. I don't think the light is different, and taking a while to come on doesn't really bother me either.

BUT

Why don't the manufacturers just replace like with like? Some fittings (notably those 'trendy' kitchen spotlights or modern chandelier/cluster type affairs) don't have an energy bulb equivalent. Why not? Replace the entire range of (say) Osram filament bulbs with the SAME bulb in CFL format - problem solved. IMO.

 

[Mr Pig]

Also, anyone using the old fashioned type obviously has more money than sense.

Maybe. But it's my money is it not? We leave lights on all over the house. Does it cost more than switching them off as you leave the room? Yes, but I'd rather a warm, bright home than feel like I'm living in a cave! Will I get fined for that next? Or fined for leaving my Hi-Fi on standby? It's not far fetched, you can already be finned for having your car ticking over unnecessarily, with unnecessarily being defined by some moron in a cheap suit and more facial hair than is prudent.