BBC Breakfast item today on illegally modded ebikes

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Clearly not based on this exceptional hardship bollocks. He should have taken responsibility for his repeatedly bad driving.

Maybe the first time
but then they had a warning - normally several

but maybe once if it is truly exceptional - such as on the bread line and needs the car to get someone to hospital

but when you hear of people getting this letoff several times
especially celebrities that clearly have money as well

then it is totally unjustifiable
 

Drago

Legendary Member
Shouldn't have hardship mitigation at all.

Its very difficult to get a ban, requiring either regular sustained offending (as per Blinky's fellow), or one God almighty enormous piece of offending.

Anyone prepared to put such effort into getting a ban has ample opportunity to consider the consequences of their actions vis a vis hardship.

And other road users right not to be maimed or killed by road criminals should trump any hardship mitigation.
 

Bristolian

Über Member
Location
Bristol, UK
So, question for CC-ers who are also motorcyclists: If you were buying a motorbike now, would you get/consider an electric one?

Or are you too much in love with the oily petrolly spannery nature of motorbikes?

Having ridden a couple of battery powered motorcycles I can say categorically that I would never buy one. The amount of torque available from the moment you crack the throttle open is, for an old bugger like me, positively scary. I doubt I would live long enough to actually enjoy it so I'll stick with my 1973 Royal Enfield Interceptor thank you very much ^_^
 

Psamathe

Über Member
Couple of days ago I got to appreciate how Police ignore the issue.

Rural 1½ lane road uphill at about 3% and I was pedalling up at 9 mph and suddenly wooosh, two "sit-up and beg" cyclists hammered past at >20 mph and they weren't even trying, just sitting like they were coasting ... except they were being followed maybe 30m behind by a Police car. My immediate through "they are getting done" except they weren't. Police car must have passed them or turned off as next glance I got of them in the distance and no Police car.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
Your average bobby isnt authorised to pursue a two wheeler or request one to stop.

Too much risk of them hurting themselves if they fail to stop, and seeing as criminals aren't allowed to suffer the consequences or their own decision making alone the bobby concerned risks prosecution.

This is the actual reason I quit roads policing. Its a dull story, but if anyone is interested...
 
Couple of days ago I got to appreciate how Police ignore the issue.

Rural 1½ lane road uphill at about 3% and I was pedalling up at 9 mph and suddenly wooosh, two "sit-up and beg" cyclists hammered past at >20 mph and they weren't even trying, just sitting like they were coasting ... except they were being followed maybe 30m behind by a Police car. My immediate through "they are getting done" except they weren't. Police car must have passed them or turned off as next glance I got of them in the distance and no Police car.

They may have been on their way to something more important

which may or may not have been a cuppa
 

blackrat

Senior Member
Your average bobby isnt authorised to pursue a two wheeler or request one to stop.

Too much risk of them hurting themselves if they fail to stop, and seeing as criminals aren't allowed to suffer the consequences or their own decision making alone the bobby concerned risks prosecution.

This is the actual reason I quit roads policing. Its a dull story, but if anyone is interested...

Sad state of affairs in woke Britain.
 

raleighnut

Legendary Member
Your average bobby isnt authorised to pursue a two wheeler or request one to stop.

Too much risk of them hurting themselves if they fail to stop, and seeing as criminals aren't allowed to suffer the consequences or their own decision making alone the bobby concerned risks prosecution.

This is the actual reason I quit roads policing. Its a dull story, but if anyone is interested...

A bloke I know was riding on the motorway with his wife on the back when another bike passed him doing stupid speed, next thing he knew was a police car rammed him from behind causing him to break a leg and his wife to break both legs and an arm. Not only that but he was prosecuted and banned for a year and fined over a grand with the police refusing to believe that he wasn't the speeding motorcyclist and as he put it if he went over 70mph his wife would start hitting him in the kidneys
 

Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
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A bloke I know was riding on the motorway with his wife on the back when another bike passed him doing stupid speed, next thing he knew was a police car rammed him from behind causing him to break a leg and his wife to break both legs and an arm. Not only that but he was prosecuted and banned for a year and fined over a grand with the police refusing to believe that he wasn't the speeding motorcyclist and as he put it if he went over 70mph his wife would start hitting him in the kidneys

Surely the cops had noticed how many were on the speeding motorbike, even if they hadn’t clocked the registration
 

Bristolian

Über Member
Location
Bristol, UK
"his wife would start hitting him in the kidneys" - My missus was banned from the pillion for far less violence than that. I couldn't get used to the continual screaming in my ear ^_^
 
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