Belguim - Zeeland campsites and routes

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Little yellow Brompton

A dark destroyer of biscuits!
Location
Bridgend
I'm part of a team taking 15 Explorer Scouts ( 14-18 yrs of both genders) on a cycle tour of the Netherlands for 4-5 days in August. I'm looking for advice on campsites, venues, routes, ferries and anything else anyone knows...
 

Brains

Legendary Member
Location
Greenwich
I'm an Explorer Scout Leader.
(Severndroog ESU, Royal Greenwich)
We have taken our Explorers cycling in the Netherlands (and UK/France/Belgium/Denmark) a number of times.

What have you got in mind ?
Have you booked ferries ? If so what are your start finish points ?
I assume you are camping ?
Do you have a support vehicle or are you lugging the lot ?
There are some good Scout Camp sites
 
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Little yellow Brompton

Little yellow Brompton

A dark destroyer of biscuits!
Location
Bridgend
I'm an Explorer Scout Leader.
(Severndroog ESU, Royal Greenwich)
We have taken our Explorers cycling in the Netherlands (and UK/France/Belgium/Denmark) a number of times.

What have you got in mind ?
Have you booked ferries ? If so what are your start finish points ?
I assume you are camping ?
Do you have a support vehicle or are you lugging the lot ?
There are some good Scout Camp sites


We are going Dover/Calais
We are camping
we have 3 support vehciles Mini bus, Tansit and car.
I've a book of Scout Campsites but it seems a bit thin.
 

willem

Über Member

Brains

Legendary Member
Location
Greenwich
We are going Dover/Calais
We are camping
we have 3 support vehciles Mini bus, Tansit and car.
I've a book of Scout Campsites but it seems a bit thin.

Blimey - That is more than enough support vehicles !!!!!
We have never used support vehicles, we have always lugged the lot.

However some comments in no particular order.
If you want to PM me then it's explorers(at)severndroog.demon.co.uk and I'll give you a number of one of my colleagues who has done more cycle trips with Explorers that I have, and has a list of all the scout camp sites we have used.
I'm sure you have looked at the costs, but with 3 support vehicles I would have left the car and transit in Dover and only taken over the mini bus (with trailer ?) with the Unit going as cycle/foot passengers. And then simply used the minibus as a kit waggon and broom for the stragglers

Calais to the Belgian boarder, there are Scout sites, it's fairly flat and well worth a diversion to show the unit the WW1 front line (Menem Gate worth the diversion)
Belgium - Alsong the coast is built up, inland is nicer

Merkenveld Scout Camp site is very good, indoor and outdoor accomo, they even produce their own beer! It is about 45 mins riding distance to Brugges

We stayed close'ish to the coast, but not right on it in Belgium, we only hit the Dutch coast at Rotterdam and went all the way up to Den Helder.
Maps - Get the Esterbauer Bikeline maps - utterly brilliant.

If you have not already done it, I'd try end ensure that you do at least a day, and ideally an overnight dry run with as many of the Unit (and all the cycling Leaders) as possible, as ther must be rules on the road. No one can overtake the leader (who is the one that can read a map whilst riding a bike), the Unit must keep two bike lengths apart, overtaking must be one the correct side only, stopping at traffic lights, and the you really want two leaders at the back, one with the tool kit and know how to use it.
 
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Little yellow Brompton

Little yellow Brompton

A dark destroyer of biscuits!
Location
Bridgend
And as others have said; Surely one support vehicle would be enough, you can park within a couple of miles of Dover ferry port for about £4 a day.
It's a 16 seater Minbus, 14 explorers leaves two seats for leaders, we need at least 4 leaders cycling that means Min 6 leaders. The trip is meant to be about touring not camping/cooking ( they can do /have done that ) and they wanted specifically to go to Netherlands , we are only going for 5 days so need the van to get the bikes and kit and a car for the support team that will be doing the cooking...
 
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OP
Little yellow Brompton

Little yellow Brompton

A dark destroyer of biscuits!
Location
Bridgend
Blimey - That is more than enough support vehicles !!!!!
We have never used support vehicles, we have always lugged the lot.

However some comments in no particular order.
If you want to PM me then it's explorers(at)severndroog.demon.co.uk and I'll give you a number of one of my colleagues who has done more cycle trips with Explorers that I have, and has a list of all the scout camp sites we have used.
I'm sure you have looked at the costs, but with 3 support vehicles I would have left the car and transit in Dover and only taken over the mini bus (with trailer ?) with the Unit going as cycle/foot passengers. And then simply used the minibus as a kit waggon and broom for the stragglers

Calais to the Belgian boarder, there are Scout sites, it's fairly flat and well worth a diversion to show the unit the WW1 front line (Menem Gate worth the diversion)
Belgium - Alsong the coast is built up, inland is nicer

Merkenveld Scout Camp site is very good, indoor and outdoor accomo, they even produce their own beer! It is about 45 mins riding distance to Brugges

We stayed close'ish to the coast, but not right on it in Belgium, we only hit the Dutch coast at Rotterdam and went all the way up to Den Helder.
Maps - Get the Esterbauer Bikeline maps - utterly brilliant.

If you have not already done it, I'd try end ensure that you do at least a day, and ideally an overnight dry run with as many of the Unit (and all the cycling Leaders) as possible, as ther must be rules on the road. No one can overtake the leader (who is the one that can read a map whilst riding a bike), the Unit must keep two bike lengths apart, overtaking must be one the correct side only, stopping at traffic lights, and the you really want two leaders at the back, one with the tool kit and know how to use it.

Lots of useful stuff thanks ,I'll contact you a bit later this evening....
 
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