Spot on. If he actually cycled himself he'd realise what a potential danger they are for cyclists (and pedestrians and cars for that matter).domtyler said:Will they be scrapped? Not on your nelly, KL has clearly done a back room deal with the company and is not in the slightest bit interested in what is best for the people.
Uncle Phil said:
Double Deckers were never a problem in the first place. They could be replaced with small electrically powered buses with adequate numbers in the fleet. More frequent service etc.domd1979 said:Rather typically no-one actually suggests what the viable alternative is for shifting such a massive number of passengers around.
Routemasters inevitably had to go for a number of reasons - not accessible, worn out, and two-man operation is expensive. At the same time a massive growth in bus usage in London has occurred mainly following the introduction of the congestion charge. No extra capacity on the tube, so basically most additional public transport users have to be carried by bus. Articulated buses - extensively used elsewhere in Europe for some time - are very effective at moving large numbers of people. The only alternative is to use deckers which have lower capacity, and require much greater dwell time at stops to load/un-load.
Unless anyone can come up with a realistic and workable alternative to artics (and I suspect the answer is they can't) then they're here to stay.
Are the safety concerns not more an issue for driver training rather than about the vehicle itself? An articulated bus is an inanimate object and doesn't inflict injury on others by itself.
domtyler said:Double Deckers were never a problem in the first place. They could be replaced with small electrically powered buses with adequate numbers in the fleet. More frequent service etc.
Are the safety concerns about driver training? Eh? Is that what we should say about urban 4x4s too then? The problem is that the driver has no idea what is happening sixty feet behind him as was witnessed when the young lad in Ilford was dragged around under one for over an hour before anyone noticed.