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Big Green Van

Discussion in 'Commuting' started by JamesAC, 1 Feb 2008.

  1. JamesAC

    JamesAC Senior Member

    Location:
    London
    I had occasion to email Murphy's (the Civil Engineering and Construction people) thus:

    I was cycling up Katherine Road, in Forest Gate in east London, when I was overtaken by one of your huge green vans.

    What astonished me was that the driver overtook me with care and consideration, at a place where it was safe for him to overtake.

    When I caught up with him at the traffic lights, there was a cyclists' Advances Stop Line. Not one millimeter of van has strayed into the ASL

    If half the other van drivers on the road were as courteous as your driver, then life for cyclists (and other road users, too) would be that much better.

    My heartfelt appreciation

    Regards
     
  2. yorkshiregoth

    yorkshiregoth Master of all he surveys

    Location:
    Heathrow
    Makes a nice change to get a good van driver, hopefullly he/she continues in this manner.
     
  3. wafflycat

    wafflycat New Member

    Location:
    middle of Norfolk
    Always good to give positive feedback, I think, where you can. I did this with the local end of a national company and had the national transport manager on the phone, within minutes, saying he appreciated the feedback and would make sure his drivers knew of the good feedback.
     
  4. Maz

    Maz Guru

    Good. I was conditioned liked one of Pavlov's dogs into thinking it was a complaint letter. Nice one.
     
  5. Ashtrayhead

    Ashtrayhead Über Member

    Location:
    Belvedere, Kent.
    They'll be round in the morning to tarmac your drive.
     
  6. HJ

    HJ Cycling in Scotland

    Location:
    Auld Reekie
    Good one...
     
  7. John the Monkey

    John the Monkey Frivolous Cyclist

    Location:
    Crewe
    Excellence.

    I've had occasion to thank van drivers in the past too - there's good ones out there folks :biggrin:
     
  8. fossyant

    fossyant Ride It Like You Stole It!

    Location:
    South Manchester
    I used to work for one of these 'utility' companies, but they will take your letter seriously - ours was the biggest privately owned business in a certain part of the business, but we would follow up good and bad stuff.

    Bad stuff.. a van returned to the depot of 3 years old worth £30k new - doors held closed by rope.... the transport manager and 'owners of the company' would go mad - why, we fixed the fleet kept it tip top as a rule/public image, and had the rules of the gov't to adhere too...oh my would they go ballistic if this sort of crap happened...and it did....

    Glad Murphys were good.... not my old company, but most are 'well advertised", so have to behave, and should - it's often viewed quite badly at HO if they don't.... all about public 'perception'.........
     
  9. bonj2

    bonj2 Guest

    Maybe he's been complained about by cyclists in the past and his boss listens to them, and has given him numerous dressings down and he is now on his final warning, so is being squeeky clean and not giving anyone any excuses.
     
  10. Me too. Nice to hear some good news and you did right to tell the company.
     
  11. Twenty Inch

    Twenty Inch New Member

    Location:
    Behind a desk
    So we're now congratulating people simply for following the rules of the road? It's nothing more than is expected. If he had got out and helped you fix a puncture, then perhaps a letter is in order.

    Ok, I'm deliberately being contrarian, but do you see my point?
     
  12. wafflycat

    wafflycat New Member

    Location:
    middle of Norfolk
    There's nothing wrong in giving praise for kindness, courtesy, good manners. Do unto others and all of that. That note of goodwill to the company is likely to engender a much more positive attitude to cyclists from the drivers of the company. Which is a good thing. A bit of politeness goes a long way to making life more pleasant.

    Be a miserable old fart if you wish, 20", not offering thanks for common courtesies extended to you, but some folk find politeness & courtesy makes life a lot more pleasant all round :evil::evil:
     
  13. Twenty Inch

    Twenty Inch New Member

    Location:
    Behind a desk
    Dear Ms. Jones

    I was walking back from the shops when I was passed by your big teenage son. I was astonished that he didn't attempt to mug me, assault me or abuse me, despite the fact that I am much older and frailer than he is.

    If half the teenagers around here were as courteous as he is, then life for little old ladies like me would be much easier.

    Yours
    Nora Batty


    Unreconstructed curmudgeon, that's me. :rolleyes:

    It says a lot for the state of modern life that we make a point of writing to someone congratulating them for behaving properly. Are our expectations really that low?

    Don't get me wrong - I understand the principle of praising the good behaviour and punishing the bad (if cyclists could punish van drivers in any meaningful way for the myriad petty humiliations and dangerous stupidities they inflict). It's the same principle employed in training dogs. I also try to acknowledge a driver's patience, or considerate driving, or other praiseworthy attempts to make the roads a slightly less dangerous and unpleasant place to be.

    I just think that in this instance, the driver has done nothing exceptional. He's merely doing what is required by law, and by good manners, and by his employers. Dishing out praise when it's not deserved just devalues the currency.

    Anyway, that's enough contrarianism from me - next week I too will try to find some praiseworthy behaviour to write to a company about.

    And Waffly, advocating politeness and courtesy in the same sentence as you call me a miserable old fart undermines your argument a little, don't you think? You're normally a more considered correspondent.
     
  14. wafflycat

    wafflycat New Member

    Location:
    middle of Norfolk
    So you missed the smileys indicating humour then. It seems you are a curmudgeonly old fart after all 20"! :wacko::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: Just putting plenty of smileys in there to make sure xx(:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
     
  15. Twenty Inch

    Twenty Inch New Member

    Location:
    Behind a desk
    I thought it was a flyspot on the windscreen.