Binning old wheelsets.

[Mugshot]

I've been sorting my shed out and have two sets of wheels one set of Aksiums and the other is a set of Zondas. The Aksiums I have actually blown the rim on the rear and the Zondas are on the wear limit, but as far as I'm aware the hubs are ok. Do you think it's worth getting them re-built or would I be just as well to bin them? What does everyone else do?

 

[Threevok]

If the hubs are OK then rebuild (or if you are like me - stick them in the attic with every intention of doing so)

 

[Mugshot]

I've never rebuilt a wheel although I am tempted to give it a go myself. I suppose the cost of someone who knows what they're doing rebuilding them would probably be prohibitive

 

[Yellow Saddle]

I've never rebuilt a wheel although I am tempted to give it a go myself. I suppose the cost of someone who knows what they're doing rebuilding them would probably be prohibitive

Well, now's your chance to learn. Get a replacement rim for the wheel with the most spokes ('cause those are the easiest to do) and tackle it as a winter project - learn to do a rim transplant, tension and true. It is more satisfying than TV. Admittedly less satisfying than beer, but still, do it.

 

[Mugshot]

You could be on to something there. Should the spokes be replaced at the same time?

 

[Yellow Saddle]

You could be on to something there. Should the spokes be replaced at the same time?

No, let sleeping dogs lie. You don't even disturb them in the transplant. Here's how you do it.

1) Sedate the wheel.
2) Tape the new rim flat against the old rim, lining up the valve holes nicely.
3) Loosen a nipple, move spoke over to the adjacent rim and turn the nipple back on with a turn or two.
4) Repeat.
5) Tension and true.


Step 5 may or may not be to (time) scale with the other points, but that's a topic for another day or, from a good book or, from YouTube.

Edit: I forgot to mention that you should un-tape the old rim after the op.

 

[MichaelW2]

I've never rebuilt a wheel although I am tempted to give it a go myself. I suppose the cost of someone who knows what they're doing rebuilding them would probably be prohibitive

You could use them for rebuilt practice, take the spokes out, put them back in, re-true.

 

[Mugshot]

No, let sleeping dogs lie. You don't even disturb them in the transplant. Here's how you do it.

1) Sedate the wheel.
2) Tape the new rim flat against the old rim, lining up the valve holes nicely.
3) Loosen a nipple, move spoke over to the adjacent rim and turn the nipple back on with a turn or two.
4) Repeat.
5) Tension and true.


Step 5 may or may not be to (time) scale with the other points, but that's a topic for another day or, from a good book or, from YouTube.

Edit: I forgot to mention that you should un-tape the old rim after the op.

Thank you @Yellow Saddle , it sounds quite doable when you put it like that

 

[winjim]

No, let sleeping dogs lie. You don't even disturb them in the transplant. Here's how you do it.

1) Sedate the wheel.
2) Tape the new rim flat against the old rim, lining up the valve holes nicely.
3) Loosen a nipple, move spoke over to the adjacent rim and turn the nipple back on with a turn or two.
4) Repeat.
5) Tension and true.


Step 5 may or may not be to (time) scale with the other points, but that's a topic for another day or, from a good book or, from YouTube.

Edit: I forgot to mention that you should un-tape the old rim after the op.

Does this assume that you are using an identical rim, or at least one with the same ERD?

 

[Mugshot]

From a super quick Google an Aksium rim is about £27 quid and the wheelset is around £130 or so, got to be worth a shot hasn't it.

 

[subaqua]

Thank you @Yellow Saddle , it sounds quite doable when you put it like that

It really is easy I did it in July when I fell off and landed on front wheel buckling rim . A very satisfying Friday , and as YS says not as satisfying as a cold beer on a hot day but very satisfying when it's trued and rounded

 

[classic33]

No, let sleeping dogs lie. You don't even disturb them in the transplant. Here's how you do it.

1) Sedate the wheel.
2) Tape the new rim flat against the old rim, lining up the valve holes nicely.
3) Loosen a nipple, move spoke over to the adjacent rim and turn the nipple back on with a turn or two.
4) Repeat.
5) Tension and true.


Step 5 may or may not be to (time) scale with the other points, but that's a topic for another day or, from a good book or, from YouTube.

Edit: I forgot to mention that you should un-tape the old rim after the op.

Hit it with a hammer or use a local?

 

[Yellow Saddle]

Does this assume that you are using an identical rim, or at least one with the same ERD?

Good point. Either will do. Identical is easier for the novice because it eliminates one very pesky step.

 

[Mugshot]

As a novice who abhors pesky steps do I need to Google ERD?

 

[Yellow Saddle]

As a novice who abhors pesky steps do I need to Google ERD?

Effective Rim Diameter. It is the measurement of the rim that determines the spoke length and not the tyre size. A deep section carbon rim has a smaller ERD than a shallow box section rim. The carbon rim would use shorter spokes, but both can use the same tyre. ERD on a 700C wheel is typically in the 600mm range, giving you a spoke length from 270mm to about 303mm, depending on the hub size. Even the slightest mis-match of ERD will render the existing spokes useless since they only have about 5mm of adjustment via the nipples.
ERD is tricky to measure and the problem with searching for an alternative rim with the same ERD as yours means that you have to a) know what your present ERD is and b) find one that matches even though the ERD is generally not published and the dealer will have no clue.
That's why it is pesky.

You did ask.