Mr Pig said:
Prove that the majority of motorists break the law?
You seriously want me to prove that to you?
Before I dig out the oft' quoted stats on this, please define what you would accept as proof. I ask because I have never encountered anyone, ever, who questioned that entirely proven statement. Really.
So what proof would you accept?
Stating as 'fact' that the majority of cyclists are law abiding is pretty idiotic. Unless you know them all personally, and either watch all of them all the time or believe everything they say! I see cyclists on the pavement every day, I'd say that I see as many on the payment as I do on the road. And if they are so saintly, how did the police manage to fine two-hundred of them for jumping red lights in one month?
You're saying that anyone who believes that cyclists are law abiding is wrong because your subjective impression, based on your own observations, is that they're wrong? Okay... I get where you're coming from now...
Go to a junction with lights. Wait where you're not obvious. Watch what happens when the lights change.
Or drive down the motorway at 70mph. Look in the other lanes once in a while.
How did the police fine two hundred cyclists for red light jumping? Simple enough, by ignoring motorists committing the same crime.
Maybe. Again though, how do you now? It's pure speculation isn't it? And going by some of the opinions on here hardly unbiased speculation. Rather than playing tit for tat about who's the worst shouldn't we just be accepting that neither are perfect and offering suggestions as to what can be done to improve this?
I'd rather clarify things first. Get a real sense of the scale of the problems we have on our roads. It clearly is not necessary to reiterate that no one is perfect, we all know that, what is needed is a sense of the scale of relative problems caused by different types of road user. Surely you agree?
Most motorists break speeding laws. Do you agree or disagree?
It is common practice for motorists to break the law at traffic lights by going through at amber when they could easily stop, or within a couple of seconds of the lights changing to red. So common in fact that it is considered normal. Do you disagree?
It is common practice for motorists to overtake cyclists too closely if cyclists do not choose a prominent road position. Do you disagree?