BMC Timemachine TMR01 or Canyon AEROAD CF SLX 8.0 DI2

[jackrands]

Hi guys,

I'm about to buy a new bike and I'm not sure which one to get. I know this is a personal decision but I want to make sure I make the right choice. I have my own thoughts and have done a lot of research but I would really appreciate a second opinion.

Which of these bikes do you think is a better set-up (they are exactly the same price):
BMC Timemachine TMR01 Ultegra Di2 2015 Road Bike
Frame: P2pxSubA full carbon construction – DTi cable routing, compatible with mechanical and electronic groupsets – Integrated rear brake
Fork: Aero road fork, SubA full carbon construction – Integrated front brake – 1-1/8" to 1-1/4" tapered steerer tube
Front Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra FD-6870
Rear Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra RD-6875
Number of Gears: 22
Shifters: Shimano Ultegra ST-6870
Chainset: Shimano Ultegra FC-6800
Chainrings: 53-39T
Bottom Bracket: BB86
Cassette: Shimano Ultegra CS-6800, 11-28T
Pedals: Not Supplied
Brakeset: Integrated design
Brake Levers: Shimano Ultegra ST-6870
Handlebars: 3T Ergonova Team
Stem: 3T ARX 2 Team
Wheelset: Zipp 60 Carbon Hybrid
Front Tyre: Continental GP-4000S 700 × 25C Folding
Rear Tyre: Continental GP-4000S 700 × 25C Folding
Saddle: Fizik Arione R7 Manganese
Seatpost: Aero post, carbon, with p2p and subA
Weight: 7.68 Kg
Canyon AEROAD CF SLX 8.0 DI2
Frame Canyon Aeroad CF SLX
Fork Canyon Aeroblade SLX
Rear Derailleur Shimano Ultegra Di2, 11s
Derailleur Hanger DERAILLEUR HANGER NO. 25
Front Derailleur Shimano Ultegra Di2, 11s
Shifters Shimano Ultegra Di2, 11s
Brake levers Shimano Ultegra Di2
Brakes Shimano Ultegra
Cassette Shimano Ultegra, 11s Wheelset Reynolds Strike Carbon Clincher
Tyres Continental Grand Prix 4000s II
Cranks Shimano Ultegra, 11s
Chainrings 52/36
Chain Shimano CN-HG700-11
Bottom Bracket Shimano Pressfit
Handlebar Canyon H11 Aerocockpit CF
Handlebar tape Canyon Ergospeed Gel
Saddle Fizik Arione R5
Seat post Canyon S27 Aero VCLS CF
Pedals none included
Weight 7,3 kg

 

[vickster]

The advantage of the BMC is that they presumably sell in Evans, so you can test ride. With canyon, you can't

And if I were spending £4000 on a bike, I certainly wouldn't buy sight unseen!

 

[Booyaa]

The advantage of the BMC is that they presumably sell in Evans, so you can test ride. With canyon, you can't

And if I were spending £4000 on a bike, I certainly wouldn't buy sight unseen!

That x1000. Spending that amount you should get it checked out and make your mind up with an informed decision rather than just what specs/geometry look better online.

 

[vickster]

I'd go to a serious shop selling racing machines like sigma sport or whatever equivalent is local and talk to them, sit on some, test ride some

Tbh, I wouldn't drop that sort of money at Evans

 

[jackrands]

That x1000. Spending that amount you should get it checked out and make your mind up with an informed decision rather than just what specs/geometry look better online.

Hi Vickster, thanks for replying.

I've tested the BMC at Evans and I do like it but unfortunately there's no way to test the Canyon. Canyon bikes get incredible reviews and are generally regarded as better value (if you can call an expensive bike value) so I didn't want to disregard it completely just because I can't test it. A lot of people seem to be very happy with their Canyon bikes despite not being able to test them before purchase.

I'm trying to make the most informed decision possible and I'd appreciate people's advice, as I appreciate yours

 

[Booyaa]

Hi Vickster, thanks for replying.

I've tested the BMC at Evans and I do like it but unfortunately there's no way to test the Canyon. Canyon bikes get incredible reviews and are generally regarded as better value (if you can call an expensive bike value) so I didn't want to disregard it completely just because I can't test it. A lot of people seem to be very happy with their Canyon bikes despite not being able to test them before purchase.

I'm trying to make the most informed decision possible and I'd appreciate people's advice, as I appreciate yours

Do Canyon not allow testing of their bikes? That seems very odd to me.

 

[jackrands]

Do Canyon not allow testing of their bikes? That seems very odd to me.

No, you order directly and they don't have any shops in the UK.

I agree it's a bit strange but their argument is that cutting out the middle men allows them to reduce costs and sell better bikes at a lower cost.

I know specs aren't everything but if you look at what you get vs. other bikes/shops it does seem like much better value.

 

[vickster]

Do Canyon not allow testing of their bikes? That seems very odd to me.

Only if you are in Germany. They don't sell directly in the uk

 

[jowwy]

It would be the bmc for me and only because of the wheels......the zipp 60's have the alloy brake track, where as the full carbon clinchers on the canyon would be a bugger in the wet.....as for test riding one, nah......buy what looks good, get the right size and at that price not much would need changing

Thats just my opinion, other opinions are well regarded and may differ significantely from mine

 

[Cyclist33]

One has electric gears and the other mechanical, does that matter to you?

 

[jowwy]

One has electric gears and the other mechanical, does that matter to you?

According to the bike description they are di2 electric

 

[Cyclist33]

According to the bike description they are di2 electric

True.

 

[jackrands]

That's a good point but the BMC does include electronic shifters.

For some reason they've included Di2 in the name but but it isn't mentioned in the specs.

 

[vickster]

The advantage of buying from a race oriented independent LBS is if spending that sort of cash, you'll get a full fit, all the troubleshooting needed etc. from Evans you'll get some service but probably from a team less used to dealing with 4k bikes, the staff won't have experience most likely of riding them, nor long standing customers who do. Canyon you get after sales by email, no fitting, any issues you have to send back to Germany etc

Or you can get a unique bike built from the frame you want to the spec you want

 

[huwsparky]

The Canyon your interested in is listed in the Canyon sponsorship scheme. So a little bit of a saving to be made provided you have a race licence.

https://www.canyon.com/en/service/sponsoring.html

Personally, I'd go for the one that you prefer the look of too!