The driver has swerved onto the wrong side of the road , hit the cyclist, failed to stop and driven off with a badly damaged car. If the swerve and collision were not deliberate, the failure to stop certainly was. Clearly something caused the swerve as well, possibly drink or phone use or some other form of impairment.
BMW Hit & Run
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The driver has swerved onto the wrong side of the road , hit the cyclist, failed to stop and driven off with a badly damaged car. If the swerve and collision were not deliberate, the failure to stop certainly was. Clearly something caused the swerve as well, possibly drink or phone use or some other form of impairment.
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Can't disagree with any of that but again you have also failed to address the question what are you seeing in the video that makes you think it was deliberate
Probably distracted, phone or something, drifted across tbe road and saw the cyclist and panicked.
No excuse for not stopping. I doubt the punishment will be much worse than if they'd done the right thing, should the driver be brought to court and a decent chance of getting away with it.
Just seen the cyclist on BBC London news. He was a lucky lad. He's not yet complained formally about the effort put in by the police. Time to do so, I think.
No excuse for not stopping. I doubt the punishment will be much worse than if they'd done the right thing, should the driver be brought to court and a decent chance of getting away with it.
Just seen the cyclist on BBC London news. He was a lucky lad. He's not yet complained formally about the effort put in by the police. Time to do so, I think.
There is possibly CCTV from another angle somewhere which would show if he was already on the wrong side of the road for any other reason than to deliberately take out the cyclist. That said, if the police can't even be arsed to get the first piece of footage or basically do anything, then there's little chance of any further investigation.
Which got me thinking, is there some form of fund setup somewhere for private investigation of these types of incidents whereby plod's work is privately funded and then handed to them on a plate? I'd happily chuck money into such a fund.
Which got me thinking, is there some form of fund setup somewhere for private investigation of these types of incidents whereby plod's work is privately funded and then handed to them on a plate? I'd happily chuck money into such a fund.
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I think that is a great idea but unfortunately huge can of worms I think, if you go frame by frame as slow as possible the BMW is already over the white line when you first see it.
Hmm, probably true. I guess it would be probably end up being inadmissible or something.
cyberknight
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Ihave to agree with regards our local plod,when i was knocked off they were not that interested and a month or so back i tried to report a driver on his phone i had seen outside the school at coming out time with time,, date, phone number , van reg etc ( number on the van ) and they replied telling me as they hadnt seen it they would not pursue the matter.
classic33
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I'm wondering what the police response will be, if he gets hold of CCTV footage and the registered keepers details.
Both should, in theory, be now easy to obtain. Request in for CCTV footage, where the cyclist is visible, under the "new rules". £12.50 to get the registered keepers/owners details.
Both should, in theory, be now easy to obtain. Request in for CCTV footage, where the cyclist is visible, under the "new rules". £12.50 to get the registered keepers/owners details.
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Which "new rules" are these?
classic33
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If you feel there's a chance that you were caught on CCTV, public or private, it's a written request to find out.
"New rules" was the change in data protection last year.
As I said I do not know what happened on the road before this. I acknowledge that perception and fact can be two different things and I hope that this was not a deliberate act but this was my perception when I watched it. So I watched it again.
Why? Well it looks deliberate due to the chosen trajectory of the car, it comes round the corner at speed on the RH side of the road with no obstacle on the LH side to avoid, in the short period of time in the video where (if he was looking) the cyclist was visible to the driver there seems to be no attempt made to swerve or emergency brake. The car correcting course after hitting the cyclist almost seeming like it was a perfectly timed hit. Finally, no attempt is made to give any aid afterwards.
Now perhaps the driver did not see the cyclist until too late, perhaps they were to scared of the consequences and so didn't stop. But they chose their speed and line - that was a deliberate choice and makes the subsequent collision look deliberate.
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I didn't know this bastard, namely Sean Fagan, 29, (1.12.89) of Regina Road, Crouch Hill, had been caught and has already pled guilty to causing serious injury by dangerous driving, failing to stop and failing to report. http://courtnewsuk.co.uk/bmw-driver-faces-jail-mowing-down-cyclist/
He is bailed until 2 July and will hopefully get a proper jail sentence.
He is bailed until 2 July and will hopefully get a proper jail sentence.
I was wondering what happened in this case - it is a bit worrying that the judge is hinting that a custodial sentence may not be appropriate.
swee'pea99
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"‘This is a serious matter which would normally attract an immediate prison sentence." So, what's 'abnormal' about this case of a driver ploughing into a cyclist and doing a runner?
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