Brace of British
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Spokesmann
Keeping the Carlton and Sun names alive...
- Location
- Plymouth, Devon
Has to be the bottom one, top one is just too new for me.
Sittingduck
Legendary Member
- Location
- Somewhere flat
Top one, I think. Although the spoke pattern is a bit "brave". The bottom one is ok but chainset looks like it's not meant to go on that bike, for some reason. 
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Alembicbassman
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Top one, I think. Although the spoke pattern is a bit "brave". The bottom one is ok but chainset looks like it's not meant to go on that bike, for some reason.
I will probably change the chainset to a Shimano 2200 or 2300 8 speed compact when funds allow. The 42/52 Sakae is a bit kak.
The bike already has a 7 speed cassette on a freehub and 130mm dropouts so the upgrade should be fairly easy, also the downtube shifter will be gone.
I like the Raleigh a lot, but with its skinny steel tubes and dinky brake levers, the Claud is a lot more graceful. How do they compare weight-wise?
- Location
- the post-brexit wasteland
the top one, although both are about as british as the king of siam…
claud butler is a brand that's been used for by a variety of manufacturers; some made great bikes (butler himself, and holdsworthy) before the brand got sold on several times and these days resides on reasonably priced aluminium bikes from taiwan that are a million miles away from the creations from the artisan workshop of the great man himself prior to 1956.
claud butler is a brand that's been used for by a variety of manufacturers; some made great bikes (butler himself, and holdsworthy) before the brand got sold on several times and these days resides on reasonably priced aluminium bikes from taiwan that are a million miles away from the creations from the artisan workshop of the great man himself prior to 1956.
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Alembicbassman
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The CB is 'Handbuilt in England' it says that on the top tube in big letters next to the model.
It weights about 12kg, the Raleigh is about 10kg
It weights about 12kg, the Raleigh is about 10kg
That seems heavy. My Italian steel weighs 10kg.
Nice looking bikes by the way.
- Location
- the post-brexit wasteland
hand-built can just mean that the components were put together in britain. i've got a mtb that says the same although all the components are shimano and the frame is made in taiwan.
i've no idea how little of the build has to be in britain, but i wouldn't be surprised if it was as little as turning the bars and putting the pedals on.
nice pair of bikes though.
i've no idea how little of the build has to be in britain, but i wouldn't be surprised if it was as little as turning the bars and putting the pedals on.
nice pair of bikes though.
e-rider
crappy member
- Location
- South West
Is there ONE single part of the Raleigh that is Made in Britain? Probably not!
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Alembicbassman
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It's worth noting Toyota, Honda and Nissan all build cars in Britain, whereas the British built mini is actually made from German BMW parts.
It's only the main tubes on the CB that are Reynolds double butted, the stays and forks are not specified, but I assume they're cr-mo. The steel chainrings and handlebars add weight.
It's only the main tubes on the CB that are Reynolds double butted, the stays and forks are not specified, but I assume they're cr-mo. The steel chainrings and handlebars add weight.
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Alembicbassman
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Yep, unless magnets stick to other metals.
e-rider
crappy member
- Location
- South West
It's got steel chainrings and handlebars?
Are you sure?
that isn't so unusual on such a machine
