Bradley Wiggins calls for safer cycling laws and compulsory helmets

[david k]

You mean you haven't been popping out for rides while its been running. Just went out and slipped in a quick and gloriously sunny 25 miler between posts #1315 and #1378

Ive just done a hilly 8.6 miler. tough for me as im not built for climbs

 

[Linford]

You seem to take all sorts as all sorts of things. Shame you never seem to find the evidence eh

Pissing contest over cycle hats aside, are you happy to stand corrected over the horse stuff as I'm still waiting for clarification on this post

Take it however you like, you still have read selectively (and are factually incorrect, the law is not a blanket requirement)

 

[mcshroom]

No because it isn't factually correct. The factual inaccuracy is trivial but still there.

 

[Red Light]

Im dont think judging the looks of a helmet only is the correct reason to base your selection of the 'significant safety equipment' (as you call it)

Surprised you are saying that having just claimed that any opinion is valid.

 

[theclaud]

I must have missed that one? Were did he say it?

Well, he's been disapproving of cyclists on this particular cycling forum for at least as long as I've been here (four or five years), and probably longer. Is that enough?

 

[ufkacbln]

For most of them its 3% or less but Paris is up around 30%.

There is another problem with Paris that is uniquely cultural.

There is an "underclass" of poor and low income including immigrants see these bikes as a "middle class" waste of money and hence a target for "political" protest by vandalising them, hanging them from lampposts or ditching them in the river.

 

[david k]

Surprised you are saying that having just claimed that any opinion is valid.

did that surprise you redlight? not sure why, but everyone is different i suppose

 

[david k]

Well, he's been disapproving of cyclists on this particular cycling forum for at least as long as I've been here (four or five years), and probably longer. Is that enough?

so he didnt say he disaproved of cycling?

 

[theclaud]

Im not sure what your 'track' is but im happy to allow you to consider your on tthe right one

Some believe it is not significant, hence the difference of opinion

I havnt heard this one, ill have to take your word for it

Im dont think judging the looks of a helmet only is the correct reason to base your selection of the 'significant safety equipment' (as you call it)

You are nitpicking. For some people, the acquisition of these (unnecessary) accoutrements it will not be a deterrent to cycling, for others it will. It is the latter group that we are concerned about. Creating barriers to cycling is a bad thing, is it not, whether you think any particular barrier is particularly significant?

 

[theclaud]

so he didnt say he disaproved of cycling?

Are you afflicted with some kind of interpretive disorder?

 

[david k]

You are nitpicking. For some people, the acquisition of these (unnecessary) accoutrements it will not be a deterrent to cycling, for others it will. It is the latter group that we are concerned about. Creating barriers to cycling is a bad thing, is it not, whether you think any particular barrier is particularly significant.

To summarise this post, are you are saying a helmet is a barrier to cycling and people wearing them reaffirm this?

 

[david k]

Are you afflicted with some kind of interpretive disorder?

No I am not theclaud, so the question remains, did he say he disaproves of cycling?

 

[StuAff]

[QUOTE 1984758, member: 45"]Partial as I am to the occasional bout of linfoonery, and dipping into the never-changing helmet debate from time to time, I think that all this thread is doing now is diluting the credibility of the contributors. Perhaps a large step back is in order?[/quote]

This assumes that certain contributors had any credibility in the first place. And they haven't shown it.

 

[ufkacbln]

Why not supply the source when you make these claims so we know what the hell you are on about ?

If it is opinion then whos to say it is insane ?

On a previous thread on compulsion... in response to a series of posts Redlight asked:

So you wear a full face helmet when cycling then?

The reply from David K was:

no, with the helmet being wider than my face im guessing that will take the impact if i fall

Of course an opinion and hence entitled, but is it something we should actually be recommending for BMX or Off road?

This is exactly where the "hint and run" and non-evidenced opinion becomes unacceptable.

 

[ufkacbln]

Norm did offer to lock it a couple of hours ago.

My fault ... I diverted him to Angry Birds.

He may be some time!