Broke my own Golden Rule

[summerdays]

The last child that was misbehaving was in Tesco's this week ... and they were running around ... and eventually ran into me and my basket. Automatically I apologised ... but the Mum instantly said it was the child's fault and seemed to be trying to get them to calm down. I think she was struggling though so I felt more sorry for her as she warned them they would be loosing a treat when they got home if they didn't behave and I continued to hear them and her in the supermarket. At least she was trying to control their behaviour.

It is hard when your children are playing up, and I don't have a problem with an adult saying anything to mine if I think it is fair. I can't think of an example off the top of my head but I'm sure I've been in the situation where someone has told them off for something I hadn't realised was annoying another person, so I've explained to them that they need to stop that behaviour because someone else is being affected by it.

I would like to think that there is no way that mine would consider running around a carriage acceptable in the first place. I have told off other people's children but I suspect more often when there doesn't seem to be an adult presence around.

 

[Hover Fly]

But why should he move?
Seats are for sitting on, not jumping on, and as Cush says the boy could easily be hurt if the train jerked for some reason, then I suppose it would be anyone's fault but the kid's or his parents'.

 

[pawl]

But why should he move?
Seats are for sitting on, not jumping on, and as Cush says the boy could easily be hurt if the train jerked for some reason, then I suppose it would be anyone's fault but the kid's or his parents'.

 

[pawl]

Totaly agree

 

[wiggydiggy]

I wouldnt worry about it, they stopped and shut up so its a good result. Children should be banned from certain train carriages anyway, there would certainly be a market for it.

 

[summerdays]

I wouldnt worry about it, they stopped and shut up so its a good result. Children should be banned from certain train carriages anyway, there would certainly be a market for it.

They almost are ... we have ended up in the quiet coach before now ... and as a parent it was slightly stressful trying to make sure they didn't make a single peep the whole time.

 

[wiggydiggy]

............. quiet coach.........

I find business people who misunderstand the instruction 'use your mobile device in the vestibule between carriages ' to be more annoying than children in that coach lol

BTW People/children can talk in the 'quiet' coach, just not at volume etc Its also I think more aimed at those who have very loud mobile conversations as if they need to shout so the person at the other end can actually just hear them

 

[Archie_tect]

Tables of 4 people chatting loudly and giggling become tedious though.
One man taken to task for making loud mobile calls argued from York almost to Grantham- stupid idiot. The guard intervened and asked him to step outside to calm him down.... I think he meant the vestibule as the train was doing 120mph.

 

[slowwww]

That brings to mind flying to Crete many years ago. We were late checking in and so I was seperated from my girlfriend and ended up in the aisle seat next to a lady with a baby and a son possibly 4-5 years of age.

In hindsight my mistake was saying a brief 'hello' to them, as after that boy seemed to think that I was there soley to amuse him, and his mother was happy for me to put up with this as it saved her the bother. After about 15 minutes I was fed up, and picked up my maagzine and started reading it. The trainee yobbo was having none of that, and proceeded to kick this regulalry, pull my clothign and pinch me while shouting at me to try to get my attention.

The more I ignored him the more extreme his behaviour became. After a further 30 minutes or so the baby on the women's lap was fast asleep and she was engrossed in the film with headphones on and so I interrupted her and asked her to control her child. She glared at me, shouted at her son to "..behave!!!" then put the headphones back on and completely ignored it as he carried on.

I spoke to the stewardess and asked to be moved, and while she was aware of his behaviour, she said they were full and I couldn't be moved, and she seemed ill-inclined to challenge the rather ferocious mother.

After a further 2 hours of this with regular requests to the women to control her boy which she ignored, I was incandescent. Then a man wandered down the aisle from 2 rows in front and lent over to chat to the women and it transpired that he was her husband and the father of this feral child. Accoridngly I asked to swap seats, but he declined, as he said that the flight would be over in another couple of hours and it wasn't worth him moving. I pointed out that it was his responsibility to control his kid, but he shrugged his shoulders and walked back to his seat.

Now I've never been a stroppy guy, but I am quite big. Just as his arse touched the cushion of his nice, quiet seat I got hold of his collar and dragged him down the aisle and dropped him into the seat next to his son. My girlfriend was mortified, but I did get a spontaneous round of applause from the surrounding passengers!

I did worry that our villa might be next to theirs, though!!

 

[wiggydiggy]

..............little brat on plane...........

Well done

 

[Cush]

"I did worry that our villa might be next to theirs, though!!"

That would have been Sods law in it's full glory but you did right in the first place.

 

[Seigi]

Early reply before I dash up the M6 (in a car) Segi I know Dalston well and often cycle or walk that way but I have never used a train toget off at Dalston.
I was mainly on the A595 but took a couple of diversions and one of them was down past the Eskmeal ranges. I was tempted to go on the side roads in the Black Comb area (one of my favorite walks) I was also tempted to go into Millom but time was not on my side. I have to say this was a great rout with a lot of variety and I will be doing a shorter version in the winter.
The reason I did not move carriges was that I wanted to stop near the bike. As an after thought, it has been said that when annoyed I do speak in a deep voice with a strong Geordie accent and I wonder if the parents were more scared of me than the child.

By 'that way' do you mean on Sustrans 7? It's closed for like 2 months now which is an annoyance (it was easy to access from where I live), as they're redoing the part which seems to be crumbling away into the river. I found out the hard way by trying to come down it only to be stopped in my tracks by a barrier (and two cyclists who didn't seem to want to tell me it was blocked off), I'll have to keep an eye for you...although I'm not sure who you'd be

 

[Cush]

Thats news to me Seigi. I surveyed both sides of the Caldew on foot a few weeks ago (the day of the big down pour) to check on the state of the Cumbria Way between Maryport cottages and Dalston for the RA and the official Cumbria Way was horribly over grown (but I belive it has since been cut). On the way back to Carlisle I used the cycle way and though parts of it need attention most of it wasnt too bad, apart from the bit between the railway wall and river and that was cordened off but you could still get by it on foot and bike. I have noticed lately that a certain contractor for the railway and CCC has a habit of blocking tracks and paths with out putting up diversion signs and they have been told that this is not acceptable but I suspect that they have a Wimpy type foreman that belives on getting on with the job and not bother with paper work and his best pen is a pick axe.

 

[Seigi]

They've only closed of that part you speak of , the part between the railway wall and river, but that effectively cuts off the entire path from Carlisle to Dalston as there's not much point going down it when you can't get through. I noticed they cut it back and the path looks like twice as wide, but I feel they still need to resurface it as it's very pothole-y on the same part.

It's closed from 22nd August until 20 something of October.

 

[cd365]

I spoke to the stewardess and asked to be moved, and while she was aware of his behaviour, she said they were full and I couldn't be moved, and she seemed ill-inclined to challenge the rather ferocious mother.

The stewradess should have told the mother that if she can't control the child then they will be banned from the return flight home and will have to make their own arrangemennts back!