Calling all model kit fans - she's finally done

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captain nemo1701

captain nemo1701

Space cadet. Deck 42 Main Engineering.
Location
Bristol
Bit of a derailment, but I really miss practical effects shots. I don't want to go so far as to say that CGI has ruined everything but when you read how ILM did seemingly simple stuff like e.g the Enterprise D stretching as it goes to warp, it's really ingenious, ground-breaking stuff that requires in-depth knowledge of how light and cameras work, not to mention the manual compositing and editing processes.

Being able to do stuff like that semi-trivially in software means that special effects are no longer special.
I do miss the 'disco tunnel' warp speed FX of ST The Motion Picture, done by the slit-scan technique which i believe Doug Trumbull invented for 2001. That's still the best 'models & string' FX movie in my book. No CGI, practical FX that blows the minds of today's generation who can't understand how a 50 year old movie did it without computing power approaching NASA!. Genius idea, build a giant mouse wheel....^_^.

Having said that though, the warp-drive wormhole bit in ST TMP was early CGI. It was apparently a real pain to film with multiple takes in 70mm. They had to repeat scenes to get the ' light flares' off people & the set. I think it took nearly 3 weeks to shoot for a 2- minute sequence!.
 

voyager

E- tadpole Triker
It boldly goes where ........... oh forget it you wouldn't understand.
correction it boldly goes NOWHERE , it's a model ,

unless it has a couple of ducted fan units and an invisible set of wings

I'll grab my coat and go model flying..

regards Emma
 
Not a sci-fi film, but the best pre-CGI effect must be the Illinois Nazis' orange station wagon going off the end of the unfinished freeway in "The Blues Brothers". The filmmakers actually took it several thousand feet up with a helicopter and dropped it into Lake Michigan. They had to satisfy the FAA that it would drop straight and wouldn't fly sideways!
 

Edwardoka

Shambling ruin of a man
Not a sci-fi film, but the best pre-CGI effect must be the Illinois Nazis' orange station wagon going off the end of the unfinished freeway in "The Blues Brothers". The filmmakers actually took it several thousand feet up with a helicopter and dropped it into Lake Michigan. They had to satisfy the FAA that it would drop straight and wouldn't fly sideways!
Good tracking on those two angles. Not like they'd have many chances for retakes.
 
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captain nemo1701

captain nemo1701

Space cadet. Deck 42 Main Engineering.
Location
Bristol
Not a sci-fi film, but the best pre-CGI effect must be the Illinois Nazis' orange station wagon going off the end of the unfinished freeway in "The Blues Brothers". The filmmakers actually took it several thousand feet up with a helicopter and dropped it into Lake Michigan. They had to satisfy the FAA that it would drop straight and wouldn't fly sideways!
In the Bond movie The Spy Who Loved Me, the famous ski-jump stunt almost never got caught on camera. They apparently had four cameras on it, one failed, one missed completely, one got it partly but one managed to track him all the way down.
 
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captain nemo1701

captain nemo1701

Space cadet. Deck 42 Main Engineering.
Location
Bristol
Yes, the ski bouncing off the top of the parachute was not meant to happen!
It wasn't until I saw it on VHS that I noticed that!. There's a whole series of documentaries on the Bond movies on YT (someone uploaded their DVD extras) and he mentions it in conversation. He was also the stuntman who did the 'cliff fall' in For Your Eyes Only Where Bond falls off the high cliff when climbing up to the monastery. The sudden stop would have killed him, so they rigged a fall-arrest system with wires, pulleys and large weights sliding along a trough!.

The Bond documentaries are fascinating to watch, the stuff they did was mental. For example, in FYEO, the stunt skier was actually tied by wire to the Bobsleigh so he went at the same speed. Tied to a bob at 60mph???.
 
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