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Glow worm

Legendary Member
Location
Near Newmarket
Especially it seems in Cambridgeshire- a county not really famous for warm welcoming locals at the best of times.

So there I was yesterday - a nice sunny day albeit a bit blowy - deciding to do a slow 18 mile ride around the Fen. (Near Wicken for any locals). I planned to do a little birding as well as to look at where some new bridges are to be put in by the National Trust (to create a new cycle link from Cambridge to Ely).

A nice plan you'd have thought, and yet all I seemed to do was piss people off just by, well I'm not really sure- existing? riding a bike? wearing a hat? First a posh git shouts at me for not 'thanking' him after he over dramatically steps aside on cycle path, where there was no need to do any dramatic stepping aside as a. the path was at least 9ft wide and b. I was only doing 5mph (I checked as I'd just stopped to look at a flock of fieldfares) and would have happily got off and walked if circumstances were different. Do some folks just spend their lives just spoiling for a fight?

Then a couple of drivers on a lane try to knock me off near Upware (though as usual the farmers were great, polite and safe drivers) by driving way too close and fast. And then -this pissed me off the most - I'm tootling along at 9mph on a cycle path and come up behind an old fella going more slowly. I sit back as I don't want to make him jump, then when the path's wider, I ring my bell and pass when I know he's heard me. The guy then suddenly starts hurling foul mouthed abuse at me. Charming. Now I'm out on a supposedly pleasant ride so I don't get involved but what is it with people these days?

Today another bloke (fat ped) in Ely jumps off the pavement in front of me without looking and starts swearing at me for nearly running into him (I'm on the road exactly where I should be). Well, it's a work day so I'm less inclined to let things go and I used a few choice words that may have included 'fat' 'cambridge' and 'prick'. He skulks off and jumps in his car and tries to run into me. I stop, to indicate I'd like to extend our debate further in the street, but old Cambridgeshite lardy boy puts his foot down and does one. Coward. I stupidly didn't note the number plate as I'd have reported him.

I then get to Norwich on the train, cycle through the busiest parts of the City as well as the quietest. And the contrast with how folks are couldn't be more different. Everyone (drivers and peds) seems pleasant, polite and safe. And friendly. Exactly my usual experience of cycling in the Fair County. Like another planet really.

I'm dreading my commute into Cambridge tomorrow now. Folks around here seem to be getting worse almost by the day. I just can't understand why- it's a beautiful area, well it would be if you removed the people. I normally go weeks, or months without any incidents but these days, around here, it's getting to be a nightmare. My emmigration papers for Norfolk are now out and ready for completion.
 

Cab

New Member
Location
Cambridge
Like I've said many, many times, Cambs is both the best and the worst place to ride. Strength in numbers, but we're still outnumbered by the wierdos...
 

wafflycat

New Member
Must admit I thoroughly enjoy cycling in Norfolk. A myriad of lanes in the countryside that can be explored. Gentle terrain for the most part too. Yes, there's the odd twit in charge of a motor vehicle but the vast majority of motorists really aren't out to maim and kill cyclists, and most are courteous. All-in-all, I'm glad I moved here. It's been a great place to bring up a child (moved from Cambridgeshire when WCMnr was a toddler) and Norwich is a pleasant enough small city. Shopping's still not as good as The Toon though ;)
 

colinr

Well-Known Member
Location
Norwich
This is why I can't relate to all the horror stories. I've had no abuse whatsoever cycling in Norwich, even when I'm fairly sure I deserved it (unless you count being beeped at once). In fact, the only time I've had a really dangerously close pass was when I left the county ;)
 

wafflycat

New Member
semislickstick said:
Crikey, I'll try not to take offence.



(*edit I won't make the joke about everyone being related to each other in Norfolk, that's why they are so friendly :biggrin: :biggrin: )

And the vast majority of the Fens, where all that inbreeding occurs, is in, err... Cambridgeshire! :wacko:;):biggrin:
 

wafflycat

New Member
colinr said:
This is why I can't relate to all the horror stories. I've had no abuse whatsoever cycling in Norwich, even when I'm fairly sure I deserved it (unless you count being beeped at once). In fact, the only time I've had a really dangerously close pass was when I left the county ;)

MrWC was victim of hit-and-run in Castle Acre!
 

wafflycat

New Member
Cab said:
Like I've said many, many times, Cambs is both the best and the worst place to ride. Strength in numbers, but we're still outnumbered by the wierdos...

On the few times I've done the all-day ride from home in mid-Norfolk to Cambridge & back, cycling in Cambridge itself is a doddle - just like cycling in any other city. Where I got the hassle was immediately out of the city, having crossed the A14, heading out into the fens. It was as if the motorists, having had patience in all the traffic jams in the city had an uncontrollable urge to speed once out of the city environs. Still wasn't too bad though.
 

colinr

Well-Known Member
Location
Norwich
MrWC was victim of hit-and-run in Castle Acre!

Castle Acre letting the side down! (hope he's ok)

Actually, bottlemsher was hit-and-runned recently (http://www.cyclechat.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=1027794&postcount=54)

But you don't get yelled at much.
http://www.cyclechat.co.uk/forums/member.php?u=2845
 
As a Soham native I was wondering if you've ever used the new cycle bridge over the roundabout at the top of the road down to Wicken? I don't think I've ever seen anyone using it.

I do enjoy the occasional jaunt around the fens on my father's old British racing green, Sturmly Archer geared Armstrong, although the fen is the best place to ride it, as it would be like riding the Forth bridge up hill!
I can't say I've had any unpleasant experiences riding around the Ely area, only 4x4's not using passing places on single track roads and heading straight towards me, but then you get that if you're in a van or a tractor so a bike is no different.
 
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Glow worm

Glow worm

Legendary Member
Location
Near Newmarket
wafflycat said:
And the vast majority of the Fens, where all that inbreeding occurs, is in, err... Cambridgeshire! :wacko:;):biggrin:

Yes that's just what I thought, but I'm glad you said it not me- I seem to pi*s the locals off around here enough just by getting up in the morning.

BTW- I'd be interested to know which route you take back to god's own county. Mine's probably a slightly more westerly route than yours but I tend to do Burwell -Iselham-Prickwillow-Wissington- Marham-Narborough-West Acre- Massingham-Syderstone back to my folk's place near Fakenham. It's almost entirely B or C roads and bloomin' great- once you've crossed the border of course :biggrin:.
 

Cab

New Member
Location
Cambridge
wafflycat said:
On the few times I've done the all-day ride from home in mid-Norfolk to Cambridge & back, cycling in Cambridge itself is a doddle - just like cycling in any other city. Where I got the hassle was immediately out of the city, having crossed the A14, heading out into the fens. It was as if the motorists, having had patience in all the traffic jams in the city had an uncontrollable urge to speed once out of the city environs. Still wasn't too bad though.

Usually starts before the A14 I find. Heading out North its somewhere around the start of Milton Road or Histon Road. Going East its as soon as you get out on to Newmarket Road.

But the city centre itself, outside of commuting times, is as you say, pretty close to any other city centre.
 
Biggest problem, in my humble opinion as a 30+year dweller on the South Lincs/North Cambs border, is the London overspill we've absorbed which has lowered driving standards somewhat.
Having said that, we now seem to be breeding our own feckwits without any external influence so that theory's probably a load of ballcocks!
 
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