Cameras + YouTube + Google - using the power

[Little yellow Brompton]

[QUOTE 1664722, member: 3143"]Another set of road users which are motorised vehicles. Bikes are road users not vehicles...'[/quote]
Not according to The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989 , but maybe that was written by idiots or morons?

 

[classic33]

[QUOTE 1664722, member: 3143"]Another set of road users which are motorised vehicles. Bikes are road users not vehicles, the clue is there Classic why the dynamics are different and therefore non comparable.

Ok

Define ''irony''[/quote]

I'll let others do that last bit for me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony.

Bikes are road vehicles
http://blogs.law.nyu.edu/lifeatnyulaw/when-is-a-bicycle-a-vehicle-and-other-legal-questions/
I, as the rider of that vehicle am the road user.

What happenned to going anyway?

 

[lukesdad]

Lol "As thus you give an example of why I'll no longer be contributing to this thread." - posts again 10 minutes later.

P.S. It was Lukesdad who was implying such videos would lead to harm. Lee was only arguing that it would affect our reputation negatively, although then failed to address my counter points to that, as Lee so often fails to do with anyone who actually shows him to possibly be wrong about something.

Could lead to harm Jezston.

 

[Jezston]

Oh no I made an error of judgement once, thus all my other points that Lee is incapable of addressing, because he is wrong, are invalid.

Hey look - I admitted I was wrong about something (when I was able to remember what you were on about) - you might want to try it some time. You might find people respect your views more.

 

[lukesdad]

Oh no I made an error of judgement once, thus all my other points that Lee is incapable of addressing, because he is wrong, are invalid.

Hey look - I admitted I was wrong about something (when I was able to remember what you were on about) - you might want to try it some time. You might find people respect your views more.

If only you d analysed the vid first before shooting from the hip for one of your moments of fame eh ?

 

[Jezston]

If only you d analysed the vid first before shooting from the hip for one of your moments of fame eh ?

You haven't actually seen the video, or the thread where it was discussed, in question have you.

No go on just carry on throwing ugly judgements towards other people about their sentiment and purpose much as you already have in this thread, without a hint of irony.

 

[Jezston]

[QUOTE 1664793, member: 3143"]Now you got a load of taxi drivers down the local rank all cussing some Doris/Cyclists who don't know the HC and RTA.

''What is it with cyclists man.''
''How da you mean cuss?''
''Some guy posted a vid of me innit claiming he had right of way over me when he was turning right in front of me''
''Cock''
''You feel me, blood.''[/quote]

I wonder what they say about your red light jumping, or the kind of riding demonstrated by alleycat fakenger types you think are so brilliant.

You're still off topic, by the way. And still posting after you'd said you wouldn't.

 

[lukesdad]

You haven't actually seen the video, or the thread where it was discussed, in question have you.

No go on just carry on throwing ugly judgements towards other people about their sentiment and purpose much as you already have in this thread, without a hint of irony.

I did see the video as it happens, and was prepared to let it lie but you couldn t could you ? You have to keep on banging away. Truth hurts dunnit jezston ?

 

[Jezston]

I did see the video as it happens, and was prepared to let it lie but you couldn t could you ? You have to keep on banging away. Truth hurts dunnit jezston ?

Sigh. I'll bite.

What exactly is the 'truth' here you're trying to show us all up for? That cyclists don't get it wrong sometimes? We've already been over this - people put their videos up as much as for learning experience as highlighting bad driving. My video makes no attempt to apportion blame solely on the driver.

Although oddly the handful of motorist colleagues I showed it to before I put it online felt hadn't done anything wrong. Not sure what that says about the main crux of your argument that seeing such videos will side motorists against cyclists.

 

[lukesdad]

Don t bite Jezston.

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

Don t bite Jezston.

Why, does he taste nasty?

 

[classic33]

[QUOTE 1664755, member: 3143"]But bikes and motorised vehicles are not the same Classic, hence why the dyanmics of fitting a camera to a bike and a motorised vehicle are different.

God's work is never done that is why I've not left.

Edit: Your link is a blog?? With that and Wiki I see the depth of research holds no bounds with sme people on cc.[/quote]

We now have god online folks.

Lee, straight question, straight answer required.
Is a bicycle a road vehicle or road user? Evidence to back your answer up required. If its a road user I'll have to keep mine chained up. Never know what it might get up to! Its got potential you know.

Bikes and motorised vehicles are road vehicles. The reasons for the placement of cameras on either type is for the same reason. Just in case something should happen. Please feel free to explain why the "dynamics" are wrong/different.

Using your reasoning when comparing a moped to an HGV, the former would not be classed as a road vehicle.

With regards the "research" no great effort was put into it, but the Oxford English dictionary isn't that different in the wording. What was done was easier than scanning the relevant page(s) in from the dictionary. You don't like the research feel free to do your own.

 

[Bicycle]

Many ideas that seem excellent in the pub or online amongst like-minded people can look rather different to onlookers peering in from the outside.

I've had few problems on the road as a driver, motorcyclist or cyclist. On the rare occasions when things have gone badly belly-up, I've found the Police an excellent resource.

I am cautious about the idea of what some folk (not me) might see as partisan, geekolicious, online vigilantism.

Who will regulate the quality of the judgements made by posters? Who will be in a position to qualify the responses of anyone shown in 'snippet' posts, where critical footage laying a context might be absent?

Who would be responsible if someone who saw something online took it anonymously upon themselves to damage the property (or worse) of the person believed to be driving an offending vehicle?

Helmet Cam footage can be a useful tool for training youngsters or inexperienced riders. I'd leave it there.

 

[stowie]

[QUOTE 1664707, member: 3143"]As thus you give an example of why I'll no longer be contributing to this thread. If you can point me to the bit that is bolded...?[/quote]

Implied in the quote below maybe? Or perhaps I inferred incorrectly. I am open to correction as I have a somewhat underdeveloped God complex....

Why are you not interested in the morality of filming drivers? LOL this is paramount to what you are proposing, if you start putting up vids for thee most basic errors which people make out on the road, then you and every other helmet cam wearer that partakes in this dumb scheme will only further alienate drivers.

And ME and all the other NON helmet camera wearers should not have to suffer the changing attitude that some helmet camera wearing doris will bring by posting some bullshit driving offence and linking it to some #tag.

 

[classic33]

Many ideas that seem excellent in the pub or online amongst like-minded people can look rather different to onlookers peering in from the outside.

I've had few problems on the road as a driver, motorcyclist or cyclist. On the rare occasions when things have gone badly belly-up, I've found the Police an excellent resource.

I am cautious about the idea of what some folk (not me) might see as partisan, geekolicious, online vigilantism.

Who will regulate the quality of the judgements made by posters? Who will be in a position to qualify the responses of anyone shown in 'snippet' posts, where critical footage laying a context might be absent?

Who would be responsible if someone who saw something online took it anonymously upon themselves to damage the property (or worse) of the person believed to be driving an offending vehicle?

Helmet Cam footage can be a useful tool for training youngsters or inexperienced riders. I'd leave it there.

Well, assuming you're posting with the intention of supplying it to the authorities, you keep the origional or supply them with a copy of the origional, warts an all. As for judging the content, could that not be left to those who view it. The poster supplying a simple explanation(possibly one mentioned on the first page of this) of what they feel was wrong and asking if they agree or not.

As to who would be responsiible for any damage caused by a person viewing it and then taking it upon themselves to seek "revenge or teach them a lesson. That can only come down on those commiting the acts.

To put it into context. When the Yorkshire Ripper was caught & named and despite the fact that the police had him securely locked up, a local butcher was firebombed & I had to have a change of teachers in the run up to exams. Their crime, they shared the same name as the ripper. The teacher received death threats, the butcher was made to close up and leave his business under police guard such was the feeling against him.