Weighed it including forks - 3.315 kg. Also remembered there is a metal lining tube inside it. It has closed off the down & seat tube to stop debris, there is a gap so that the rear stays can breathe.OK, I can tell you're serious, so here's a couple of tasks to help narrow it down.
How much do the frame and fork weigh?
What diameter seat post / internal diameter of seat tube? Expect 27.0 mm or even better 27.2 mm for 531db or similar quality.
I think my Olympic was 26.8 mm, for 531 plain gauge: yours looks better!
Can anyone identify this frame?
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raleighnut
Legendary Member
- Location
- One of the 'Elite'
Another mark of quality that points to something other than a standard 'run of the mill' frame,
BTW good luck getting a bottom bracket into the shell now unless you have a 'tap set' to clean those threads out.
It was only a thin coat of etch primer. Will come off with a wire brush or thinners. Will be masked before colour & lacquer. So far the frame remains unidentified.
BalkanExpress
Guru
- Location
- Brussels
As were cycles France-Loire, if I remember correctly they bought out Mercier as some point.
Do you think it is a Mercier ?
France - Loire ? I've never heard of them.
velohomme
Senior Member
I don't know. I have a 76 Mercier and it certainly doesn't have fancy lugs. Nice but not fancy. It was just the St Etienne reference.
Illaveago
Guru
- Location
- Chippenham,Wiltshire.
I just found a picture of a pre 63 Freddie Grubb which has the same make of bottom bracket . I also found another which had the same type of lugs . The only problem I can see is that they used 5 digits and not 6 and I'm also not sure how the early style head badge compares with hole placing . The early style badge looks like a close approximation , I will have to do some rough calculations. The later head badge looks too long .
Might need a Grubb expert to look at the frame .
Might need a Grubb expert to look at the frame .
Illaveago
Guru
- Location
- Chippenham,Wiltshire.
I did a quick calculation using a picture of an early style Freddie Grubb head tube and badge . By measuring the width of the head tube and the distance between the hole centres of the badge and by using the head tube width with my Raleigh Record Ace I came up with a distance between hole centres for the badge as 47.26 mm.
Holdsworth bought Freddie Grubb in 1952 . The early style badge was used from that period up to 1963. The numbering system was numerical without letters. Whether they went into 6 digits I don't know .
Holdsworth bought Freddie Grubb in 1952 . The early style badge was used from that period up to 1963. The numbering system was numerical without letters. Whether they went into 6 digits I don't know .
BalkanExpress
Guru
- Location
- Brussels
Sean Kelly used to ride for SEM France Loire, although he was using rebadged Alan Aluminium frames
Illaveago
Guru
- Location
- Chippenham,Wiltshire.
Wouldn't a French frame have a right hand thread on the drive side of the bottom bracket ?
