Can you find me 10 seconds on a 3 minute sprint?

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Ming the Merciless

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Still 5 seconds off.
Didn't sleep a wink last night and I was absolutely fragmented at work today
I think I need to get used to a road bike

I think you just need to get fitter. A 3 min all out effort should not wipe you out or affect sleep.
 
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honeybadger

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5 seconds over three minutes is nothing tbh. keep an eye on the wind direction, go out with a slight tailwind and you’d smash that. Just looked at my ride history on a three minute segment near me. Two of the times have near identical hr (123 v 124) and power (183w v 184w) and due to the wind direction the time difference was nearly a minute. Now is it right for you to try and beat the time using wind is up to you. Some may call it cheating but if the other person did it in a group ride/chainey and you'll be doing it on your own imo the gloves are off ^_^
 
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bulldoze

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I think you just need to get fitter. A 3 min all out effort should not wipe you out or affect sleep.

I am not sure that is true. A true, honest to goodness all out effort is going to affect at any age. If it doesn't then you just don't know how to wring the towel.

At over 60 yrs old it is going to impact heavily.
 

honeybadger

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I am not sure that is true. A true, honest to goodness all out effort is going to affect at any age. If it doesn't then you just don't know how to wring the towel.

At over 60 yrs old it is going to impact heavily.

Agreed. Remember when I used to race hill climbs. Although generally they were short, sharp efforts I was coughing my lungs up like a 40 a day B&H smoker for a couple of days afterwards.
 

rogerzilla

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After an evening "10" once, I was lying on the grass recovering when the next rider came in.

"They say you haven't tried hard enough if you don't feel sick at the finish", I quipped, without looking at him.

He didn't answer, as he was too busy doing a Technicolor yawn onto the grass.
 

Ming the Merciless

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I am not sure that is true. A true, honest to goodness all out effort is going to affect at any age. If it doesn't then you just don't know how to wring the towel.

At over 60 yrs old it is going to impact heavily.

It will affect you in the immediate aftermath but not last into the rest of the day and night. If it does; you pushed well beyond what your current fitness or health is capable of handling.
 

wafter

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Shimano offers SPD-SL pedals in a long-axel version (with the benefit of a wider Q-factor). I’m a fan.

https://bike.shimano.com/en-NA/stories/article/dura-ace-and-ultegra-long-axle-pedals.html

Thanks - although unfortunately the 8mm difference across their whole width appears pretty meaningless compared to the 50ish-mm difference between the crankset assembly that knackers my joints and the one that doesn't.
 

Happy_Days

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Thanks - although unfortunately the 8mm difference across their whole width appears pretty meaningless compared to the 50ish-mm difference between the crankset assembly that knackers my joints and the one that doesn't.

It could be that your knees rotate outwards significantly when pedalling the road bike.

Depending on your interest in solving it, a bike fit would find out and fix what’s going on. A cheaper option would be MyVeloFit:

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/fitne...-fit-at-my-local-shop-heres-how-they-differed
 

wafter

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It could be that your knees rotate outwards significantly when pedalling the road bike.

Depending on your interest in solving it, a bike fit would find out and fix what’s going on. A cheaper option would be MyVeloFit:

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/fitne...-fit-at-my-local-shop-heres-how-they-differed

Thanks, although I know what's going on. My feet naturally toe-out with the outsides of the soles biased downward; the result is that in a natural stance their pitch is significantly greater than the 250-ish-mm afforded by road cranks and SPD pedals, while my legs naturally want to angle inward . Forcing my legs to conform to this narrow-Q concentrates load on the outside of the feet and loads the joints up when they're in less-than-idea orientations.

The solution is an appropriately wide Q-factor.. MTB cranks with flats are fine out of the box; road cranks with spd pedals are torturous.

Unfortunately thanks to the lack of cross-compatibility it looks like the least-worst solution on my gravel bike is going to be flats and pedal extenders; as gash as it looks.
 
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bulldoze

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