Car Audio - specifically Bluetooth

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markemark

Veteran
seems to be only for charging? Charging is not an issue...unless I have missed something (which is likely)

It would be a base that could support the cable you buy.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
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South Manchester
No Canbus as far as I know. The head unit is purely maps, FM radio, BT. All the other controls are below with separate knobs which I'm glad about

That's good. My wife's car is like that, but my older car had all the controls on the screen, and my van has everything in the screen unit. My son's BMW android unit is quite clever in that you can switch back to the BMW menus if needed.
 

newts

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Isca Dumnoniorum
I would make sure that your medianav has the latest firmware/updates. I used Renault medianav for phone & streaming music /podcasts from 2016 until last year, can't remember having bt connection issues.
 

Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
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Inside my skull
I've been trying to find out, but can't. I'm assuming (rightly or wrongly) that if it was made before BT 5.0 came in then it might not properly support 5.0 and later. But it clearly does sometimes

No if earlier version it will only support its version and earlier. Thus if car is BT 4.0 then you won’t get anything better than that if your phone for example supports 5.0. BT has backwards compatibility but not forwards compatibility.
 
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Electric_Andy

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Plymouth
No if earlier version it will only support its version and earlier. Thus if car is BT 4.0 then you won’t get anything better than that if your phone for example supports 5.0. BT has backwards compatibility but not forwards compatibility.

The Renault Captur 2014 uses BT 4.0. My phone uses 5.3 and works perfectly sometimes, but not others. This is what I don't understand. If it was a compatibility issue, surely it would work fairly poorly most of the time. Instead of working perfectly 40% of the time, or totally failing to connect 60% of the time? Or is the 60/40 functionality symptomatic of the 4.0/5.3 mis-alignment?
 

Ming the Merciless

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This is what I don't understand

Then they will be working under BT 4.0 restrictions not 5.3. Thats the bit to understand. The range will be much lower, the bandwidth lower etc etc
 

si_c

Guru
Location
Wirral
The media nav system is pretty terrible, we have it in our Renault (2013 Clio) and it's similar to your issue.

We've got an android replacement (£200ish on eBay) which replaces the whole head unit and frame with a new one, and has a 8" or so touch screen with android auto/apple carplay so it works very much like new cars. Just not got around to actually replacing it yet, so it's in the garage.

Might be something like this but you'd need to check whether you need a new frame around the dashboard or not. Ideally you want something with Android 14 or better. Worth doing a bit of research on what you might need first - a local car audio place is likely to be able to help.
 
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Electric_Andy

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Plymouth
The media nav system is pretty terrible, we have it in our Renault (2013 Clio) and it's similar to your issue.

We've got an android replacement (£200ish on eBay) which replaces the whole head unit and frame with a new one, and has a 8" or so touch screen with android auto/apple carplay so it works very much like new cars. Just not got around to actually replacing it yet, so it's in the garage.

Might be something like this but you'd need to check whether you need a new frame around the dashboard or not. Ideally you want something with Android 14 or better. Worth doing a bit of research on what you might need first - a local car audio place is likely to be able to help.

Thanks, I don't want an android unit though. Just an old fashioned 2 Din will be fine
 
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Electric_Andy

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Plymouth
Why 2DIN? You can get some great cheap Bluetooth single DIN radios and if you have a 2DIN slot to fill, 1DIN in top half and you can get shelf thing to take bottom slot eg https://incartec.co.uk/product/Univ...N-Fascia-pocket-50mm-high-with-3mm-lip-50-053 (all sorts of similar available from many suppliers).

thanks, yes I did that with my 2 previous cars. But in this car my partner has specified that the little filler shelf looks cheap, and also that a 1-din does not have a big enough text display when it shows the phonebook. I have tried and tried to convince her that a) she shouldn't be scrolling through a phone book to call someone because it's illegal and unsafe. And b) with Google assistant you can just say "hey google, phone Paul" and it'll do it totally hands free. But there has to be some compromise when people are set in their ways and cannot change the way they do things. I also think that a 2-DIN filling a 2-DIN sized void is a better solution, as one gets used to seeing the size of screen that it came with out the factory. I draw the line at these touch screen android auto units though; we have never used the touchscreen except to skip the odd track. The 2-DIN I'm looking at has a physical button for that, and a physical volume knob which IMHO is less to go wrong. When I got a car audio company to do this on my last one (VW), they said the screens were notorious for going wrong. And also IMHO (I don't claim to be right); a standard BT head unit is more likely to have a bigger or better amp in it than a 7" touchscreen version of the same price point.
 
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