Car recovery - why do they do it?

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danphoto

New Member
Location
East Sussex
Why am I seeing more and more cars with half their number plate taped over on the back of recovery lorries?

What's that about then? Why not all the number plate? And why has it only started recently (at least in the allegedly-affluent sarf-east)?
 

krushavik

New Member
I think it is a way to stop people clonning the number plate. If I'm wrong someone will soon put the right reason down.
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
I think it is a way to stop people clonning the number plate. If I'm wrong someone will soon put the right reason down.

So why doesn't everyone do it? You don't need to have your car parked on a recovery truck to have a scrote decite to clone the plate.

How about this alternative suggestion:

It's to blind ANPR software to the presence of the car when being clocked by speed cameras - speeding recovery trucks offer BOGOF to the treasury otherwise.
 

jackm

Active Member
Another possibility is trackday heroes on their way home with their broken cars. Trackdays are not covered by your insurance companies, and insurers have been known to attend trackdays to see if any of their punters are ragging their pride and joy around the circuit just before they put in a claim for a "road accident" that has no others involved or witnessed
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
More info is needed from the original poster.

If the cars are Nissan Micras and other run of the mill sedate cars then the track day theory is blown out of the water.

Still, the trackday theory is a good one!
 

Beebo

Firm and Fruity
Location
Hexleybeef
In London I think they do it so that you dont get caught by the congestion charge CCTV cameras, which would be unable to identify if the car was on the back of a truck.

The same could go for speed cameras etc?
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
Congestion charge - good one!

To be honest, I think that GATSO and TRUVELO speed cameras also have to provide photographic evidence of the offence. only the average speed cameras are reliant upon number plate recognition only.
 

Norm

Guest
I think that there is so much which is driven from ANPR-type systems that it could well be 'all of the above', at different times and in different locations.

The cloning thing is more of an issue for cars which are on a recovery vehicle than cars in everyday use, if they appear to be written off, Vernon.
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
The cloning thing is more of an issue for cars which are on a recovery vehicle than cars in everyday use, if they appear to be written off, Vernon.

Aaahhhhh....

Clearly I don't have a criminal mind. :thumbsup:
 

GrasB

Veteran
Location
Nr Cambridge
You'll find that a lot of cars used on the track or at shows have the plates removed or the registration covered & there are many reasons for it. Cloning (a car that looks written of or is likely to be off the road for a while is a bigger cloning target than one that's in regular use), speeding fines, congestion charges, track day prangs (though a better option is to remove or use show plates for the track time as this protects against cloning), location tracing of an immobile vehicle & its owner (steel a car that needs work but is in a less secure location & break into a house to get relevant documents).

For my Exige I have the plates on heavy duty velcro & rip them off for track time. For road use it's also useful so I can keep street legal plates on the car & still get the full front grill aperture (see attached image - my plate is mounted lower than shown with the top edge flush with the bottom of the grill) without having to replace front plates every 3-6 months when the lower edge has a tendency to catch on the top of speed cushions. With the velcro I can stop & retrieve the dislocated plate rather than replacing a shattered plate as well as getting the front clam repaired... again.
 

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Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
So why doesn't everyone do it? You don't need to have your car parked on a recovery truck to have a scrote decite to clone the plate.

How about this alternative suggestion:

It's to blind ANPR software to the presence of the car when being clocked by speed cameras - speeding recovery trucks offer BOGOF to the treasury otherwise.

How can a car be done for speeding when it is on the back of recovery lorry? Am I missing something here?
 

Norm

Guest
How can a car be done for speeding when it is on the back of recovery lorry? Am I missing something here?
If a car is on the back of a truck which is doing 50 in a 30 limit, then there is a chance that the automatic number plate readers will pick up the plate on the car rather than the vehicle which is towing / carrying it.
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
How can a car be done for speeding when it is on the back of recovery lorry? Am I missing something here?

Average speed cameras only record speeding number plates. What the number plate is attached to is open to dispute when the summons drops through the letter box of the registered keeper of the vehicle to which the plate is recorded as being attached to.
 

Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
If a car is on the back of a truck which is doing 50 in a 30 limit, then there is a chance that the automatic number plate readers will pick up the plate on the car rather than the vehicle which is towing / carrying it.

Ah OK thanks. I guess that "It was being carried by a recovery lorry" is a valid defence though.
 
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