Carlton

[Spokesmann]

Looking through the library the decals on post 68 seem to be chromed style rather than the simple Carlton style on mine

These would be Imichrome decals and were around from the later 60s (c1969) until around 74 when the simple large serif Carlton script waterslide decal was introduced.

 

[biggs682]

Bear in mind Carlton still used letter prefixes on some high end machines. Just for added confusion.[/QUOTE

Who ever said identifying a bike was easy

 

[biggs682]

These would be Imichrome declas and were around from the later 60s (c1969) until around 74 when the simple large serif Carlton script waterslide decal was introduced.

So pre 69 then

 

[Spokesmann]

That looks like my old Carlton Continental, the brakes look like the Altenburger Synchron that mine came with. Mine was this colour, with green bar tape, and green mudguards.

The Contiental had side pull Weinmann 730s and no rear brazed cable support. This means it could be a Corsa or Criterium under the paint. its not an all chrome Cobra, and I doubt a 531 'ten'.

 

[Spokesmann]

So pre 69 then

It say repaint to me. That kind of script was used much later on machines like the Nottingham built Kermesse in the early 80s.

Prior to Imichrome decals, Carlton used a script type font in a couple of designs and in red, white or gold. They were very simple designs.

 

[biggs682]

It say repaint to me. That kind of script was used much later on machines like the Nottingham built Kermesse in the early 80s.

Prior to Imichrome decals, Carlton used a script type font in a couple of designs and in red, white or gold. They were very simple designs.

It doesn't look re painted but then it's still got dust and grime all over it , once i start work on it i will have a better look

 

[Nigel-YZ1]

If it had chrome forks it would look a lot like my early 1980s Kermesse.
The colour, headstock painting and Carlton graphic on the downtube are the same.

 

[Nigel-YZ1]

Here it is for comparison:

Carlton Kermesse

• Nigel-YZ1
• 29 Apr 2017

Serial number starts with WL6, so think it's a Nottingham build from August 1986.
Originally...

 

[biggs682]

Here it is for comparison:

Carlton Kermesse

• Nigel-YZ1
• 29 Apr 2017

Serial number starts with WL6, so think it's a Nottingham build from August 1986.
Originally...

Agree re colour scheme

 

[presta]

The Contiental had side pull Weinmann 730s and no rear brazed cable support. This means it could be a Corsa or Criterium under the paint. its not an all chrome Cobra, and I doubt a 531 'ten'.

Yes, I don't know what I was thinking of when I looked at the bike at the top of the thread.

My Continental had the Altenburger Synchron though, I still have them in the garage on a Raleigh Record after I switched them before I sold the Carlton.

 

[biggs682]

When did carlton switch from a Badge on the headstock to a transfer ?

 

[midlife]

This one pitched up 1973-4 iirc but not on everything...

 

[biggs682]

This one pitched up 1973-4 iirc but not on everything...

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its a minefield

 

[midlife]

its a minefield

Yep,. I think the first bikes I saw the decal not badge was the Circuit (nice colours) and the Grand Prix (Fire Red, great idea Carlton to paint it yellow and then a red laquer but a bit hit and miss)

 

[Spokesmann]

Id hazard guess around 76/77 when the all caps block lettering came in... so did the transfer headbadge, although some very small frames with Capella lugs in the 60s had a decal.