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Chilling Insight....

Discussion in 'Pro Cycling (Road and Track Racing)' started by Tim Bennet., 17 Aug 2007.

  1. Tim Bennet.

    Tim Bennet. Entirely Average Member

    Location:
    S of Kendal
    I find the discussion on this CuttingEdge Muscle forum pretty depressing and not at all easy to ignore. Although it's on a bodybuilding site, it relates to endurance athletes and from their 'user names' and details, seem to be mainly cyclists. But most disturbing is the casual and matter of fact way it's all being discussed.

    They're obviously not 'pros', so are these the guys that drop you in a Cat 3 race, local 10TT, on the Etape or even club chain gang?

    Somehow I find this worse than any TdF scandal. Or is it just me?

    http://www.cuttingedgemuscle.com/Forum/showthread.php?threadid=18583
     
  2. chris42

    chris42 New Member

    Location:
    Deal, Kent
    Wow!
     
  3. Keith Oates

    Keith Oates Janner

    Location:
    Penarth, Wales
    That is pretty depressing reading indeed and that some are probably cyclists, for us makes it worse. Should there, or is there, a way whereby manufacturers are only allowed to supply recognised medical outlets or is that being too naive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  4. chris42

    chris42 New Member

    Location:
    Deal, Kent
    Naive!
    because it is probably the medical outlets selling the drugs on!
     
  5. Let them get on with it - losers in the normal world trying to be winners in theirs...
     
  6. Tetedelacourse

    Tetedelacourse New Member

    Location:
    Rosyth
    I am not a competitive cyclist and even so I am sickened to the back teeth at that. If I were competing I would be moved to try and expose as many as possible.
     
  7. vbc

    vbc Guest

    Location:
    Bristol
    My wife was talking to a colleague at work last year about his wife who is a talented amateur biker and went to the same club as one of our top women pro riders when they were kids, still trains with her at times.

    Anyway, this guy was saying about his wife having not ridden for a while because she'd been ill. It turns out that her trainer wanted her to take testosterone, to help her 'get better quickly'.

    This is one of the reasons that I've never wanted to do any sort of racing or even join a club - that and the fact that I'm crap also had something to do with it.
     
  8. chris42

    chris42 New Member

    Location:
    Deal, Kent
    so she reported him to british cycling and he has been arrested?

    If not then she is saying his actions are acceptable!

    If the sport is serious about getting clean then this is what needs to happen!
     
  9. col

    col Veteran

    I think the use of steroids is rife in the bodybuilding world im afraid,nearly everyone who bodybuilds ,that i know of, use them in some form or other to get results quick.im ashamed to say that twelve years ago i did use them too,to a lesser extent than the lads i knew,no excuses,but i was pulled into the ,its not really that bad,type of scenario.The results i got were impressive,but not worth the risk or possible side effects.Its a sad truth,but they are everywhere,aspecially where competative or professional people compete.If there is a total ban on them,some sports would dissapear i think.In fact i dont think its illegal to have them,just to sell them or use them,and going on the magnitude of the problem ,it would be impossible to police effectively i think.( i like say i think)
     
  10. Keith Oates

    Keith Oates Janner

    Location:
    Penarth, Wales
    Although testosterone is an illegal substance from the sporting point of view, where or why is it used for other people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  11. col

    col Veteran

    Mainly medical,where people need help in building up and getting strong again maybe?
     
  12. chris42

    chris42 New Member

    Location:
    Deal, Kent

    You are so right.
    I also dabbled with 8 weeks of roids when involved with a gym.
     
  13. DP

    DP Chasse patate

    Location:
    Netherlands
    Here you go Keith - check out section 5.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypogonadism
     
  14. Keith Oates

    Keith Oates Janner

    Location:
    Penarth, Wales
    Thanks Delftse Post, looks like something you hope you'll never be needing to use!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  15. LOGAN 5

    LOGAN 5 New Member

    Read several posts on the Cutting Edge muscle boards and so many revolve around drug taking in almost any sport! Why? I used to powerlift and never ever used anything. Those around me were certainly taking gear and some of the women grew stubble and had deep manly voices - irreversible too! Can't understand why you'd want to take something just to compete. You haven't won if you have to take drugs to do it. Many of the people posting on that board taking drugs were only amateurs and competing at local events which is even more senseless - if that's possible. All of them cheats and liars.

    Really disappointed watching the TdF this year with all the drugs scandals. I just wondered at the end what I'd been watching and who was the real winner?

    Made me think that maybe with drugs being so prevalent in cycling perhaps Lance did take something to be as good as he was for so long. With most of the top riders on something then surely he must have been to be able to compete with them. He was from the older generation too when it was much more likely riders were on gear. Would like to think he didn't but who knows.