Choice between 2 bikes........opinions wanted.

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Dave7

Dave7

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Cheshire
My genesis weighs about 9kg naked. It's as light as my carbon road bike

OH......I thought they were all steel framed bikes........no???
So......looking at those options which frame would be the most relaxed?
How does one go about hypothetically building a bike so as to work out a cost?
 

vickster

Squire
Me?
Nope, I have
1) carbon road bike (pearson Pave)
2) steel roadbike (Genesis Equilibrium)
3) alu/carbon single speed with drops (Pearson Touche)
4) alu/carbon disc braked flatbar (Whyte Cambridge)

I knew what bike I wanted but I didn't want the off the peg spec on offer, so I bought all the required parts (lots of shopping around) and a friend put it all together for me. I documented everything in an Excel spreadsheet. The cost probably did end up a little more than the off the peg, but I got what I wanted and better components (like wheels) to boot

Otherwise, you can call Pearson, Condor, other small bespoke type manufacturers and tell them what you want, how much you want to spend and let them spec and build it

In terms of how relaxed a frame is comes down to the geometry, the material, the quality of that material, the components and most importantly you!
 

Mrs M

Guru
Location
Aberdeenshire
OH......I thought they were all steel framed bikes........no???
So......looking at those options which frame would be the most relaxed?
How does one go about hypothetically building a bike so as to work out a cost?

Have you had a look at Rose Bikes?
I have had a good look around their website and they probably have a bike to suit everyone, also you don't have to just accept the stock bike, you can change wheels, saddle, stem, etc as you wish.
Excellent value for money and have heard very good reports re their bikes and customer service, also they have a contact in the UK. Also the bike weights specified are impressively light, for aluminium as well as carbon.
Happy hunting!
 

SpokeyDokey

68, & my GP says I will officially be old at 70!
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Before it was stolen I had a Ribble carbon. It was my first ever "good" bike so have no experience of other "good" bikes
I am seriously thinking of one of these two bikes.
I am 68 yrs old and reasonably fit. Not "minted" but cost is not the issue........it's whichever is "best for the job".
I want it for...............
Comfortable riding.
road rides-20-40 milers.
tow paths/penine way/some very light forrest type trails.
I have never ridden a GOOD modern alloy but am advised by LBS that a good modern alloy will be better and absorb more vibration than a Ribble carbon.

http://www.specializedconceptstore.co.uk/sirrus-expert-carbon-disc/33736/15sirrus

http://www.cube.eu/uk/bikes/tour/sl-road/cube-sl-road-race-black-white-red-2015/
As I say......opinions wanted.

The Cube is a lot of bike for £900 - I can't see anything wrong with it or why you would need to spend any more money for what you need it for.
 

Pale Rider

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The Cube is a lot of bike for £900 - I can't see anything wrong with it or why you would need to spend any more money for what you need it for.

The OP wants a bike for tow paths and light trails.

The Cube has Kojak tyres which won't be ideal.

Easy enough to change to something with a shallow tread.
 
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Dave7

Dave7

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Location
Cheshire
The Cube is a lot of bike for £900 - I can't see anything wrong with it or why you would need to spend any more money for what you need it for.

I am "leaning" that way. Although at my age (67) what I "need" to spend as against what I "can" spend" is not too much of an issue...............it is which bike performs best and (as you say) gives me what I need.
Neither bike will be in stock till January/February so I will test both out at that time............but I do appreciate everyones thoughts & comments.
 
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Dave7

Dave7

Legendary Member
Location
Cheshire
Have you had a look at Rose Bikes?
I have had a good look around their website and they probably have a bike to suit everyone, also you don't have to just accept the stock bike, you can change wheels, saddle, stem, etc as you wish.
Excellent value for money and have heard very good reports re their bikes and customer service, also they have a contact in the UK. Also the bike weights specified are impressively light, for aluminium as well as carbon.
Happy hunting!
No..........not looked at them but have heard of them.
TBH I will only buy a bike that I can see/touch/feel/ride and generally "play with"........but I will go to thier web site.
Many thanks
 

Mrs M

Guru
Location
Aberdeenshire
No..........not looked at them but have heard of them.
TBH I will only buy a bike that I can see/touch/feel/ride and generally "play with"........but I will go to thier web site.
Many thanks

There is a UK contact for Rose bikes, a chap called Finlay, who I read somewhere is very helpful, found an email address fin@rosebikes.co.uk
Believe you can test drive by appointment, although depends on location, think they are in WIltshire..
I got hold of a copy of last years Rose catalogue and was impressed, although like yourself would like to try before buying, happy hunting, it's part of the fun!
 

Pale Rider

Legendary Member

vickster

Squire
But it's got flat bars and Shimano groupset, so it's not the same bike as mine? Nor is it made of nice comfy steel....

And blech look at the colour, or lack of xx(
 

vickster

Squire
I don't think they have his carbon flatbar jobbie

You could however source a lovely steel genesis frame, e.g from http://www.freeborn.co.uk/brands/genesis?dir=asc&order=price

And get an LBS to built your flatbar spec, e.g. in Cheshire

http://www.twelve50bikes.com/ (or as a Genesis dealer they could perhaps source you a frame)

Or given your location, why not pay a trip to Dolan and see what they can build you in Ti out of one of these?

http://www.dolan-bikes.com/road/road-framesets/road-framesets-titanium.html
 
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Mugshot

Cracking a solo.
There is a resonable possibility that in the next few months I'll be looking at a new bike, at the moment I'm hovering around two options. Although I'm sure I will, I'm dreading starting the which bike thread as I know I'll have loads of links to equally gorgeous bikes posted and I'll end up far more confused than when I started :laugh:
 

Drago

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Go ride them and see which works best for you. The shiniest spec doesn't always give you the best bang for your buck, as Triban 3 and Trance X4 owners will confirm.
 
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