Christies modern art sale

[Fab Foodie]

Have to say, I didn't understand 'Unmade Bed' until I heard Emin talking about it and the circumstances surrounding it's 'creation'. The 'tent' is much easier to comprehend. Since then I've come to appreciate Emin's talent more and more and her artistic ability is very broad indeed. To listen to her talk about art is a very simple and pleasurable experience.
I admit to being a fan of much modern art and IMHO Emin is one of the best and most accessible.

 

[Archie_tect]

I think it's true to say that 'performance art' is designed to be confrontational by it's very nature, but just because something requires interaction doesn't imbue it with value... it may still be useless and [literally or perceptually] rubbish.

 

[Fab Foodie]

Agree with all that FF, except that it is not called 'Unmade bed'! That's what the red-faced with ire tabloids called it. Its title is 'My Bed', an important distinction because it is a piece of her autobiography along with the tent. She just doesn't use words (apart from when she wrote her PhD thesis that is).

Thanks TMN, I was being layzeee .....

 

[Fab Foodie]

Ok, you are forgiven. But a lot of people think that's what it really is called. Bit like the Mona Lisa really

Which is really called 'Miserable old dear in drab brown painting that's much smaller and duller then everybody expects' but that's just too long ....

 

[Tim Hall]

I don't much about art, but I know what I like.

<Not The Nine O'Clock News>

"And what do you like?"

"Stock car racing"

</Not The Nine O'Clock News>

 

[MontyVeda]

Seeing this 'in the flesh' left me thinking 'meh.. is that it?'

...anyone with a set of paints, a sheet of A4 card and a chunk of hash could have done similar.

I do like some of Dali's work, but that's just pants.

 

[swee'pea99]

Seeing this 'in the flesh' left me thinking 'meh.. is that it?'

...anyone with a set of paints, a sheet of A4 card and a chunk of hash could have done similar.

I do like some of Dali's work, but that's just pants.

The thing that struck me seeing Dali's work 'in the flesh' was the astonishing level of detail. The closer you got, the more you saw....there'd be the tiniest flecks of maybe 50 or 60 distinct colours within an area smaller than a postage stamp.

 

[Fab Foodie]

I quite like Dali, but then I'm quite partial to most Indian food ....

 

[Tim Hall]

They didn't though, did they? If it's so easy, maybe you're in the wrong profession?

Nail on the head there TMN. When I saw "The Weather Project" at Tate Modern my first reaction was to stand there mouth open in wonder. My next was to think if I'd been the one who made it, I wouldn't have to do anything else again. Ever. I could say to people "you know that big sun thing at Tate Modern? I did that" and they'd all understand I'd contributed enough.

 

[swee'pea99]

[QUOTE 3160918, member: 1314"]I’ve been thinking about this in the context of the written worr. Why don’t peeps who have such a dislike for ‘modern’ art not have the same reaction to ‘modern’ literature? I think it’s to do with accessibility. [/QUOTE]
I think it's also to do with the apparent easiness of much conceptual art. Even people who think they can write reasonably well know they could never write a book, but arranging 124 bricks into a rectangle, or painting an entire canvas purple? "Our Ron could do that, and he's 7!" Also, Brits have always hated clever dicks, and 'pretentious' clever dicks, well...you just want to poke 'em in the eye, don't you?

 

[MontyVeda]

They didn't though, did they? If it's so easy, maybe you're in the wrong profession?

The same lame argument could be put forward for suggesting 'anyone could write lyrics as 'good' as Noel Gallagher'. Just because someone else didn't write "stand by me, nobody know-wo-woes, the way it's gonna be." doesn't mean those words are the work of a lyrical genius... but it's art so it's all subjective.

I have earned money through the handful of paintings I've done... not much, and I'm not claiming I'm any sort of artistic or creative genius. The scale on which Dali painted the persistence of memory is so underwhelmingly small and out of all the wonderful work Dali created, I struggle to understand why that particular piece is one of his most celebrated... it just left me thinking 'meh... is that it?' Monet's Reflections of Clouds on the Water-Lily Pond, on the other hand left me thinking 'wow!"

 

[User482]

I think it's also to do with the apparent easiness of much conceptual art. Even people who think they can write reasonably well know they could never write a book, but arranging 124 bricks into a rectangle, or painting an entire canvas purple? "Our Ron could do that, and he's 7!" Also, Brits have always hated clever dicks, and 'pretentious' clever dicks, well...you just want to poke 'em in the eye, don't you?

People were saying the same thing about impressionism. All those thick brush strokes - a child could do that.

 

[MontyVeda]

The thing that struck me seeing Dali's work 'in the flesh' was the astonishing level of detail. The closer you got, the more you saw....there'd be the tiniest flecks of maybe 50 or 60 distinct colours within an area smaller than a postage stamp.

Whereas The Persistence of Memory lacked anything like that... the marks are very simple, it all looks very poster-painty close up and really is nothing special... apart of course from the name of the artist.

 

[Markymark]

[QUOTE 3160952, member: 1314"]... aaaaannndddd....

... in 1999 Emin's Bed was entered for the Turner Prize. She came second. Guess who won. Go on. Guess. (No googling.)[/QUOTE]
Rolf Harris?

 

[MontyVeda]

was it the house filled with cement, then knocked down to leave only the cement imprinted with details of the house that once surrounded it... whatever it was called, and whoever did it?

edit... no... that was '93... and this is it...