Coffee Bar Bans Pushchairs.....

[EltonFrog]

In this case yes. However business owners have many restrictions on how they run their firms these days and rightly so IMO.

I'm not sure if I understand your point?

 

[The Jogger]

I'm not sure if I understand your point?

Does he?

 

[Primal Scream]

Was in London last night, we popped into a smart coffee shop for brekkies. It was full of uncontrolled screamers. Why, oh why do some parents think it is OK to release and ignore their children in a coffee shop while they have a civilised chat with their friends. Bloody rug rats.

May I suggest pig ignorance plays a part in this.

 

[Milo]

All i meant is that business owners should rightly so have to accommodate disabled folk when possible to do so and employ them if able to etc. Also they should not be able to reject people because of sexuality or anything else like that. Who remembers the bed and breakfast owners who rejected a couple who were gay? I have nothing against asking people not to bring pushchairs into a coffee shop though. Seems odd that we are arguing over a coffee shop in Germany though frankly. Hardly worthy of sarcastic comments Jogger.

 

[Norm]

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[Primal Scream]

All i meant is that business owners should rightly so have to accommodate disabled folk when possible to do so and employ them if able to etc. Also they should not be able to reject people because of sexuality or anything else like that. Who remembers the bed and breakfast owners who rejected a couple who were gay? I have nothing against asking people not to bring pushchairs into a coffee shop though. Seems odd that we are arguing over a coffee shop in Germany though frankly. Hardly worthy of sarcastic comments Jogger.

I beleieve the discussion is about the principle of the ban not the location of the coffee shop.

 

[slowmotion]

Publicans can ban kids, can't they? Why not coffee shop owners?

 

[Primal Scream]

Publicans can ban kids, can't they? Why not coffee shop owners?

It wasnt kids it was push chairs. No one (i hope) minds a well behaved child its the braterrati thats a problem, just try the coffee shops in the Highgate, Muswell Hill, Crouch End area after 9am to see the self absord mothers and offspring in action.

 

[The Jogger]

Milo , no offence meant, apologies for the sarcasm.

 

[slowmotion]

It wasnt kids it was push chairs. No one (i hope) minds a well behaved child its the braterrati thats a problem, just try the coffee shops in the Highgate, Muswell Hill, Crouch End area after 9am to see the self absord mothers and offspring in action.

Banning their chariots is a pretty effective brat filter, isn't it? Actually, well behaved kids live solely in France...

[yes, yes, I had and have one]

 

[theclaud]

Publicans can ban kids, can't they? Why not coffee shop owners?

They can, but I'm not sure they should. And I say this as someone who finds pushchairs irritating (they seem to be getting bigger and developing monstrous multi-functional capabilities) and who avoids family-dominated places. I think it's polite to leave bulky pushchairs outside or in a foyer unless an interior is especially spacious, but people with children need to cart them around, and it's difficult to see a prohibition on pushchairs as anything other that a coded ban on people with children. Which, given the de facto childcare situation, usually means mothers. It might be a more poncey gaff than the smoke-filled, male-dominated public bars of recent history, but I'm not sure it's any more appealing. I'd rather chance the odd kid misbehaving than have coffee-shops populated entirely by miserable old gits who are hiding from women and children and taking themselves and their coffee rather too seriously.

 

[slowmotion]

I'd rather chance the odd kid misbehaving than have coffee-shops populated entirely by miserable old gits who are hiding from women and children and taking themselves and their coffee rather too seriously.

Could we meet half way? Ritalin next to the sachets of FairTrade sugar?

 

[threebikesmcginty]

Banning kids is a great idea, let's keep everyone out though that is likely to disturb our middle-class relaxation time. Old people, talk too loud and wear taupe. Young people, talk too loud, know it all and wear weird stuff. Lefties, talk too loud and are generally intolerant. Cyclists, talk too loud, take EPO, wear Lycra, smell...

 

[Primal Scream]

They can, but I'm not sure they should. And I say this as someone who finds pushchairs irritating (they seem to be getting bigger and developing monstrous multi-functional capabilities) and who avoids family-dominated places. I think it's polite to leave bulky pushchairs outside or in a foyer unless an interior is especially spacious, but people with children need to cart them around, and it's difficult to see a prohibition on pushchairs as anything other that a coded ban on people with children. Which, given the de facto childcare situation, usually means mothers. It might be a more poncey gaff than the smoke-filled, male-dominated public bars of recent history, but I'm not sure it's any more appealing. I'd rather chance the odd kid misbehaving than have coffee-shops populated entirely by miserable old gits who are hiding from women and children and taking themselves and their coffee rather too seriously.

I tend to agree with you more often than not but not on this occassion, why should even miserable old gits have other peoples noisy kids foisted upon them coffee shops are not playgrounds although in some you would think so. You want to let your kids run riot I suggest you try poxy McDonalds no problem with buggies there and they sell reasonable coffee.

 

[Fab Foodie]

I'd rather chance the odd kid misbehaving than have coffee-shops populated entirely by miserable old gits who are hiding from women and children and taking themselves and their coffee rather too seriously.

Oi! As a Father of 3 teenagers, we need to have some refuge ....