Consideration for Cyclists

[cubey]

An interesting video, also showing the perfect roundabout for cyclists. One of my pet hates about British roads.






We can but dream.....................

 

[Drago]

There are quite a few not dissimilar in Milton Keynes. Not perfect, but still quite decent.

 

[Cuchilo]

I can go under or around all the RAB's on the way to Hillingdon race track . Not the nicest of spaces though !
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.4923085,-0.4097364,354m/data=!3m1!1e3

 

[cosmicbike]

I can go under or around all the RAB's on the way to Hillingdon race track . Not the nicest of spaces though !
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.4923085,-0.4097364,354m/data=!3m1!1e3

What are the cyclepaths like North of the airport? I'm based South of Heathrow so don't venture any further North than Bath Road...

 

[originofeye]

That's a really nice design. There's a roundabout I sometimes take (if it's not rush hour) and it's scary as hell, man. Mostly because you have to change lanes to avoid ending up on a motorway.

 

[Cuchilo]

What are the cyclepaths like North of the airport? I'm based South of Heathrow so don't venture any further North than Bath Road...

Ive only ever used the ones on the A312 and along the A40 to the Polish war memorial . They are pretty good compared to most and keep you away from traffic but can be confusing if you dont know your route .

 

[mjr]

There are quite a few not dissimilar in Milton Keynes. Not perfect, but still quite decent.

Decent, but the gradients and radiuses are mostly too sharp. Most were designed in the 60s and 70s and yet we still build worse. I'm hoping that https://cycletraffic-elearning.com will finally teach designers what should have been learned back then but wasn't.

 

[Drago]

Yeah, some of the older are tragic. Some of the newer ones along the V10 and V11 are pretty good. Nevertheless, all in all they're better than most towns manage.

 

[Slick]

The split level looks the business, no chance of seeing that here anytime soon. One or two of the examples looked as if they relied on every driver paying full attention. I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with that.

 

[HLaB]

A considerate design but without strict liability and culture change it wouldn't work here

 

[KnackeredBike]

That's a really nice design. There's a roundabout I sometimes take (if it's not rush hour) and it's scary as hell, man. Mostly because you have to change lanes to avoid ending up on a motorway.

One of the ones on my commute has a very short stretch of dual carriageway is the first stretch of dual carriageway after 20 miles from Reading. I need to turn right and it is like bloody Wacky Races to get across as everyone tries to floor it to get past slower traffic.

I had a nasty pass today where someone tried to overtake me on the roundabout with predictable consequences as the road narrows and does a 90degree turn straight off the roundabout.

 

[snorri]

I'd had some concerns regarding rural Dutch junctions and decided to ask advice from a local cyclist. I thought I had understood the road markings that indicated when I should Give Way, but as I slowed down on approach, occasionally the approaching car also slowed to a halt.
Ah said my new found Dutch friend, the driver would have seen your panniers, realised you were carrying a heavy load and would not want to lose momentum, so let you through regardless of the rules.
It's true, honest.

 

[Slick]

I'd had some concerns regarding rural Dutch junctions and decided to ask advice from a local cyclist. I thought I had understood the road markings that indicated when I should Give Way, but as I slowed down on approach, occasionally the approaching car also slowed to a halt.
Ah said my new found Dutch friend, the driver would have seen your panniers, realised you were carrying a heavy load and would not want to lose momentum, so let you through regardless of the rules.
It's true, honest.

It's the ones that noticed your inability to hit 90mph so decided to get through before you that would worry me.

 

[freiston]

A considerate design but without strict liability and culture change it wouldn't work here

That was my thought too. There are a lot of UK road users who begrudge anything which is going to slow them down or any situation where they do not have priority - and unfortunately it seems that a significant number consider breaking the rules to be justifiable in such circumstances. I take a bus home from work that slows down on a road as it goes uphill on a straight road with central pinch-point islands and bollards; it is not uncommon for vehicles to overtake the bus by going on to the wrong side of the road around the pinch-points. If anyone's interested - it's here