Cops question cyclist for taking folder into MacDonalds

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Tin Pot

Guru
The food isn't much good but clean toilets almost anywhere in the world makes them a Force For Good in my book. ;)
 

400bhp

Guru
What about the ethics of the major cycle companies?

What about them?
 

Brandane

Legendary Member
About to defend the police here...

Any business has a right to lawfully remove anyone they don't want in their premises. They can physically remove you if you refuse to leave.

Not the case in Scottish law though, which would obviously apply here. We don't have a law against trespass as such, with the odd exception - e.g. if it can be reasonably inferred you were there to commit theft; or your presence was causing a breach of the peace, etc..
Outwith the scope of the criminal law, the occupant of the premises would be told when they phoned in that it was a civil matter and the Police would not be attending.
There must be more to this story than Conley or the Daily Record (toilet paper) are letting on.
 

slowmotion

Quite dreadful
Location
lost somewhere
Yes. We were glad of both on the first morning of LonJog, when they were the only place big enough and prepared to open early for us :smile:.
I don't know which ride it was because I wasn't there, but didn't McD's dry off some (DZ's???) soaking wet cycling gloves under their food-warming lights once? That's above and beyond the call of duty!
 

snorri

Legendary Member
As the thread topic has veered a little, I will add my Macd experience.
I was cycle touring along the Danube in Austria a few years ago and met up with a Swiss couple we cycled along for a few miles together. The guy spoke good German and English and had little difficulty communicating with the locals in Austria and Slovakia so I was happy for him to lead as we looked for accommodation in Bratislava which we found at the second attempt. In the evening we spent quite some time wandering around the city looking for an eating place offering meals that met the rather exacting standards of the guy, his female partner seemed less particular, anyway we had a good meal in the end. The overnight accommodation deal did not include breakfast, so in the morning we had to find a breakfast place. This involved another lengthy search as the guy peered at numerous menus and into premises before deeming each one unsuitable and then continued the search. It was with some relief on my part that we walked right past a MacD and continued the search. By this time I was beginning to feel a bit faint having still eaten nothing that day and with lunchtime now approaching. We then turned around as the guy declared that MacD would be the best place for us to eat. I was horrified that such a picky eater would be seen within a mile of a MacD branch, but although I said nothing was glad to get a seat at an outside table as he went in to order or find the menu. I was chatting with his partner as we waited, and it seemed she was similarly surprised that MacD had been selected as being able to supply something suitable for his unusually demanding taste buds. After what seemed like 20 minutes the guy re- emerged from MacDs saying the queue was too long and we should go elsewhere. At this point I said I was close to fainting and would need to get food at the nearest outlet and I would lead the search. I soon found a likely eatery which provided all that was required at reasonable cost , the guy didn't complain about the breakfast either^_^.
That's the full extent of my MacD experiences over the last 20 years,....... sat at a MacD table for a short time but have not sampled the goods:smile:.
 
no doubt called McMacaroons???
Nup. McDonald's have learned to respect Melbourne's coffee culture, and now their macaroon culture (it's weird, macaroons are everywhere!). McCafe's have been in Melbourne for more than 20 years, selling proper cafe items and not weird USAsian simalcrums.

I can't remember what the McCafe coffee was like at the airport, but practically any coffee in Melbourne is better than any coffee I've ever had in London.
 

Trickedem

Guru
Location
Kent
I regards McDonalds as a lifesaver! 2 years ago I was doing a 400km 24 hour ride and was really struggling with my appetite and as I was approaching Towcester at 10 at night I saw the Golden Arches ahead and it really lifted me. I wheeled my bike in, had a cup of tea, milkshake and a couple of burgers and it really helped. They never batted an eyelid and even filled my water bottles. On the other hand earlier in the year I had a run-in with the manager of the empty Margate branch at about 7.30 in the morning, when he told me I wasn't allowed to bring my bike in next time (I'd already had my brekkie by then) He was just being an Ar*se and couldn't give me a reason and my bike was absolutely spotless. I told him there wouldn't be a next time.
 

MontyVeda

a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
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What's not to like about McDonalds:

Starting on the outside, the McLitter and the view of the garish decor that adorns the interior. Then there's the Mc this and Mc that stuff on the menu, and of course Ronald... he can Mc right off!"" I don't think kids should be put anywhere near a picture of him, let alone in the vicinity of someone wearing the costume!
 
Not the case in Scottish law though, which would obviously apply here. We don't have a law against trespass as such, with the odd exception - e.g. if it can be reasonably inferred you were there to commit theft; or your presence was causing a breach of the peace, etc..
Outwith the scope of the criminal law, the occupant of the premises would be told when they phoned in that it was a civil matter and the Police would not be attending.
There must be more to this story than Conley or the Daily Record (toilet paper) are letting on.

I missed the fact it was in Scotland! That said, we don't have a law against trespass either - its entirely a civil matter. The owner of the premises though has a right to remove a trespasser, and to ask for police assistance in doing so.

Porter v Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis 1999 -
http://www.freebeagles.org/caselaw/CL_bp_Porter_full.html

That's the stated case, it's not a bad read if you are into that sort of thing! Not entirely sure how it would translate north of the border, I was recently reliably informed by @glasgowcyclist that English case law can be used (though is not binding) in Scottish cases.
 

Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
Do any McDonalds provide adequate cycle racks? If not where are you supposed to leave your pride and joy? I visit the local Morrison's late on when it's quiet. I take my bike into the store and prop it up against the newspaper stand,no staff mind but it's funny how some customers seem to want to look at the unsold papers and make a bit of an issue of my bike being there.:rolleyes:
 
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Crankarm

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Do any McDonalds provide adequate cycle racks? If not where are you supposed to leave your pride and joy? I visit the local Morrison's late on when it's quiet. I take my bike into the store and prop it up against the newspaper stand,no staff mind but it's funny how some customers seem to want to look at the unsold papers and make a bit of an issue of my bike being there.:rolleyes:

Could you not leave it between some baps?
 
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