Court case outcome

[sazzaa]

Mind you I would expect any insurance quote would make your eyes water in either case

If you declare it...

 

[Beebo]

If you declare it...

Insurance works on the principle of utmost good faith, ie all parties have to declare information at the start of the contract, insurers arent in a position to check every detail of every policy holder when they buy a policy.
But they will check the drivers status in the event of a claim, so if any information has been with held the policy will be void.

 

[sazzaa]

Insurance works on the principle of utmost good faith, ie all parties have to declare information at the start of the contract, insurers arent in a position to check every detail of every policy holder when they buy a policy.
But they will check the drivers status in the event of a claim, so if any information has been with held the policy will be void.

Obviously. I'm just saying it happens, a lot of people chance it and hope they don't have an accident, in order to avoid eye-watering insurance.

 

[young Ed]

We had a local shop owner who was fed up of people parking outside his shop.
So one morning he drove his tank to work instead. I believe it was done on an ordinary licence, with a shotgun licence for the gun!

lets ignore the gun for the moment as it was very possibly de-activated in anycase so lets just focus on the tank
if done on a normal car licence it is illegal unless he stuck some painted plywood sheets on his normal 4 wheeled car :P
i am assuming here that his tank was tracked and weighed a fair bit

If you pass a regular car driving test (category B) you’ll get entitlement to drive the following specialist vehicles:

• agricultural tractors (category F)
• mowing machines or pedestrian-controlled vehicles (category K)

CategoryDescriptionMinimum age
FAgricultural tractors16/17*
GRoad rollers21**
HTracked vehicles17/21***
KMowing machine or pedestrian-controlled vehicle16

so it appears to drive a tracked vehicle (your shop owners tank) you require a category H licence and when you pass and get your normal car licence (category B) it does not entitle you to category H which requires a further test and thus your shop owner could well have been breaking the law!

sorry, yes i am a law nerd and now back to the cycling world!
Cheers Ed

 

[young Ed]

oh and i can't be bothered to dig out the old gun laws and about public open carry in the UK
Cheers Ed

 

[young Ed]

https://www.gov.uk/learning-to-drive-a-tractor-or-specialist-vehicle/driving-licence-requirements
for reference sake!
Cheers Ed

 

[Profpointy]

lets ignore the gun for the moment as it was very possibly de-activated in anycase so lets just focus on the tank
if done on a normal car licence it is illegal unless he stuck some painted plywood sheets on his normal 4 wheeled car :P
i am assuming here that his tank was tracked and weighed a fair bit



so it appears to drive a tracked vehicle (your shop owners tank) you require a category H licence and when you pass and get your normal car licence (category B) it does not entitle you to category H which requires a further test and thus your shop owner could well have been breaking the law!

sorry, yes i am a law nerd and now back to the cycling world!
Cheers Ed

Surely if you buy a tank, then you will duly do your tank driving test (track laying vehicle) so you can legally go on jaunts in it ?
That's what I would do anyway

 

[young Ed]

Surely if you buy a tank, then you will duly do your tank driving test (track laying vehicle) so you can legally go on jaunts in it ?
That's what I would do anyway

true that is what i would do i would just go and pay the £200 emission charge for london and just go drive it round london for a day just for the hell of it and because i can!
Cheers Ed

 

[glenn forger]

imagine if she'd hit someone when she was uninsured, had their been a claim the insurance company would scrutinise her personal details and licence type, if they declared the policy null and void that would have made her liable. say she incapacitated a well paid family man, three kids, shed be financially ruined.

 

[young Ed]

imagine if she'd hit someone when she was uninsured, had their been a claim the insurance company would scrutinise her personal details and licence type, if they declared the policy null and void that would have made her liable. say she incapacitated a well paid family man, three kids, shed be financially ruined.

at time of incident her insurance wasn't valid
Cheers Ed

 

[glenn forger]

I meant if bad injuries were caused, thank God they weren't. So, a grand in costs and fines and six points and the conviction would conservatively double her insurance, as well as paying for the lessons and re-test.

 

[Flyingfox]

I've actually got her insurance details, and as she has the propensity to lie I am going to call the insurers in the morning to tell them she has been convicted and had her licence revoked.

 

[CopperCyclist]

Failure to report?

Probably more likely to be the driving whilst not in accordance with a licence. :-)

Good result. You processing with any civil claims as well? Hope you do!

 

[classic33]

I've actually got her insurance details, and as she has the propensity to lie I am going to call the insurers in the morning to tell them she has been convicted and had her licence revoked.

You mean she's still driving?

 

[Arjimlad]

Deport her ?!