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This is a valid thing to do when we doubt the accuracy of the recorded cause of death, as many did about covid. Unless, of course, you think vaccination make you more likely to get shot or something, then there should be the same proportion of unrelated deaths in each group, and it's the difference between the two that is the meaningful thing. To then complain about unrelated deaths being included in both groups seems somewhat odd, to put it mildly.

Yes - which is why I want to see the study
I have seen several which claim to be a scientific study but turn out to be a "study" showing how many died after having the $whatever
and saying how terrible that is
but not showing the details because when you do that it shows the $whatever is effective
 

lazybloke

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There’s 8,000 in hospital beds with flu. Why didn’t they take the jab? It’s free to many people.

The latest nhs stats say nearly 17 million flu jabs have been given in England this year, but there are 22 million eligible by age alone (says google), so quite a lot of people haven't taken up the free jab yet.

Or maybe they did have the jab....

1) Although flu jabs are very good at reducing severity of symptoms, they are not perfect, and some will still get sick.
2) The flu jab doesn't offer instant protection, it takes a couple of weeks to build up immunity
3) The effectiveness of this year's jab is a little lower than desired, as some of the circulating strains aren't the anticipated ones.

Etc


I'm not eligible but got jabbed free through a work scheme last month.
 

Psamathe

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The latest nhs stats say nearly 17 million flu jabs have been given in England this year, but there are 22 million eligible by age alone (says google), so quite a lot of people haven't taken up the free jab yet.
I've had mine since being eligable but only just as 1st time I had an issue with the injection (not the vaccine). I seem to have lots of vaccinations (for travel) but they are always administered by specialist clinics or NHS nurses. My 1st flu vaccination was at a small regular pharmacy and the person administering "messed-up" and a week later I was seeing an NHS physio trying to get use of my arm back. Took weeks to get motion back and apparently is was physical damage caused by injection (wrong place or wrong needle).

So I now only go to specialist clinics of NHS practice - which is harder for flu as they make extensive use of pharmacies. Had loads before and after the messed-up one and only that one problem.
 

vickster

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My flu jab was done on Stabbing Saturday (TM) at my GP clinic in ealy October, indeed they had pretty much all clinical staff on duty for that 3 hour period, basically just told to go straight through when arrived and jabbed by the first clnician who was free at that time, , mine was done by one of the GPs, very efficient
 
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Fastpedaller

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Has the covid jab created a susceptibility to allergies? There seem to be a lot of people who have developed allergies since 2020. Will we ever see the 'covid jab' test results in our lifetimes, as there was a statement saying they weren't being released for 75 years? Why hide them if there's nothing to hide?
 

N0bodyOfTheGoat

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Has the covid jab created a susceptibility to allergies? There seem to be a lot of people who have developed allergies since 2020. Will we ever see the 'covid jab' test results in our lifetimes, as there was a statement saying they weren't being released for 75 years? Why hide them if there's nothing to hide?

Not the jab, but long covid at least raises histamine levels in the body.

I've felt my heyfever tablets (Allevia) haven't been so effective for the last three summers. Nearly requested Dr prescription strength, which is 180mg, rather than the 120mg that's been available to buy over the counter for ~5 years.
 

Mo1959

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Has the covid jab created a susceptibility to allergies? There seem to be a lot of people who have developed allergies since 2020. Will we ever see the 'covid jab' test results in our lifetimes, as there was a statement saying they weren't being released for 75 years? Why hide them if there's nothing to hide?

It's slowly coming out. I'm still glad I never took any jabs.
 

roubaixtuesday

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It's slowly coming out.

wE dEsErVe tHe TROOF!!!
 

roubaixtuesday

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For what seems to be an increasingly small minority of people interested in science rather than clickbait on social media, latest long term study of COVID vaccine safety

Vaccinated individuals had a 74% lower risk of death from severe COVID-19 ... and a 25% lower risk of all-cause mortality ... with a similar association observed when excluding severe COVID-19 death. Sensitivity analysis revealed that vaccinated individuals consistently had a lower risk of death, regardless of the cause.
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the results found no increased risk of 4-year all-cause mortality in individuals aged 18 to 59 years vaccinated against COVID-19, further supporting the safety of the mRNA vaccines that are widely used worldwide.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41343214/
 

Mo1959

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For what seems to be an increasingly small minority of people interested in science rather than clickbait on social media, latest long term study of COVID vaccine safety

Vaccinated individuals had a 74% lower risk of death from severe COVID-19 ... and a 25% lower risk of all-cause mortality ... with a similar association observed when excluding severe COVID-19 death. Sensitivity analysis revealed that vaccinated individuals consistently had a lower risk of death, regardless of the cause.
...
the results found no increased risk of 4-year all-cause mortality in individuals aged 18 to 59 years vaccinated against COVID-19, further supporting the safety of the mRNA vaccines that are widely used worldwide.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41343214/

.gov being the give away. Try speaking to real people who are convinced they were harmed by the vaccine. I just need to look over the road to see my neighbour still displaying symptoms very similar to Parkinsons which started after his first jab.
 
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