Cowboy 3 bike can't go uphill

[Gwylan]

Did you get anywhere on this?
Going through a similar problem.

About to launch a claim in the Small Claims Court

 

[Turi]

Did you get anywhere on this?
Going through a similar problem.

About to launch a claim in the Small Claims Court

Yep... they basically told me that the engine was not designed for that kind of steep hills so I sent it back (and I wasn't going up high mountains with it, I just live in a hilly city).

 

[Gwylan]

Yep... they basically told me that the engine was not designed for that kind of steep hills so I sent it back (and I wasn't going up high mountains with it, I just live in a hilly city).

Interesting. Cowboy and I are heading to the Small Claims Court. Currently at the stiff letter phase.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Sounds like these are sold by Cowboy’s

 

[Gwylan]

Sounds like these are sold by Cowboy’s

But they are Belgians and don't get the joke.

 

[the_mikey]

From my googling: It's effectively a single speed bike , gear ratio is a bit like having a 44T front and a 15T rear, which seems ok but it won't let you pootle around with low effort, you'll need to be making an effort and keeping the cadence (pedalling speed) quite high whenever there's a hill. In reality, you need a much bigger motor AND gears.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

From my googling: It's effectively a single speed bike , gear ratio is a bit like having a 44T front and a 15T rear, which seems ok but it won't let you pootle around with low effort, you'll need to be making an effort and keeping the cadence (pedalling speed) quite high whenever there's a hill. In reality, you need a much bigger motor AND gears.

Hmmm
Yes - I am always a bit dubious about ebikes with no gears
but then I am thinking prely about UK legal ebikes
hence the motor will never have the power to get you up a decent hill so you need to pedal for a lotof the power

but to do that you need to be able to vary the ratios - which needs some kind of gear system

Or so I would think - I have not seen a system that would get round this without having a much bigger motor - which is illegal

 

[Cycleops]

But they are Belgians and don't get the joke.

And Belgium is quite flat, hence no gears and a not so powerful motor. Great if you live there but not so great if you live in Derbyshire.

 

[Dadam]

Seems to be a single speed belt drive with a low torque hub motor. Can’t see the point of lugging around the battery and motor at all it’s for flattish town riding.

Single gear with only a 30Nm hub motor. It's a very lightweight ebike with light assistance.

I wouldn’t call it lightweight, it’s 17kg. My Orbea is 14kg and has a 40nm motor and 2x10sp derailleur gears. No problem going up hills but I haven’t tried more than 10% yet. A bit more money mind you but many better ebikes choices are available around the 2k mark

 

[Gwylan]

To my cost I am aware of that.

Also the range is nowhere near their claims. In my experience.

Hmmm
Yes - I am always a bit dubious about ebikes with no gears
but then I am thinking prely about UK legal ebikes
hence the motor will never have the power to get you up a decent hill so you need to pedal for a lotof the power

but to do that you need to be able to vary the ratios - which needs some kind of gear system

Or so I would think - I have not seen a system that would get round this without having a much bigger motor - which is illegal

You have a succinct grip on the situation.

My previous, indifferent ebike, coped with a circuit of Malham tarn.
Some ( discerning or illeterate) shite nicked it from outside a coffe shop in Oxford!

The Abbot of Aberbrothok comes to mind!
They will face their maker

 

[Ridgeway]

Hub drive is certainly not ideal for climbing, just too little torque. Conversely they are more efficient at low torque higher motor revolutions speeds so ideal for flattish rides. Hills = crank motors 👍🏻

 

[Gwylan]

From my googling: It's effectively a single speed bike , gear ratio is a bit like having a 44T front and a 15T rear, which seems ok but it won't let you pootle around with low effort, you'll need to be making an effort and keeping the cadence (pedalling speed) quite high whenever there's a hill. In reality, you need a much bigger motor AND gears.

This is like telling your mate he should never have got involved with that hot looking girl. Especially now everyone knows she has " issues"

 

[Gwylan]

Sounds like these are sold by Cowboy’s

Actually I would say that it's a great town bike if you live in Holland or your dreams

 

[Gwylan]

Hub drive is certainly not ideal for climbing, just too little torque. Conversely they are more efficient at low torque higher motor revolutions speeds so ideal for flattish rides. Hills = crank motors 👍🏻

Well life is a learning curve and then you die

 

[the_mikey]

This is like telling your mate he should never have got involved with that hot looking girl. Especially now everyone knows she has " issues"

It is a bit, although most girls don't come with a published list of specifications.