CPS are idiots

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4F

Active member of Helmets Are Sh*t Lobby
Location
Suffolk.
Oh come of it Mikey that is exactly what it was. A rant calling people hypocrites because they did not agree with their viewpoint and then saying they were not coming back is much akin to going home and taking your ball with you.
 

Mr wogwon

Regular
The driver was a little early, so! I'm surprised the CPS even entertained this non event :rolleyes:

CPS didn't entertain it they kicked it out of court. The driver would have been reported for the offence and summonsed . CPS wouldnt have made a charging decision to get it to court like they do on criminal offences Such as theft/danage etc . I'm surprised the BTP entertained it ! I agree with others, the flashing front light concerns me more !
 

stowie

Legendary Member
I do think people are being a little harsh on the OP. The driving in the clip falls between the standards one should expect and blatantly dangerous. Kind of anti-social behaviour with a vehicle, and I see it all the time. And although it isn't considered enough to prosecute it makes our roads more unpleasant and dangerous. The driver seems to have been speeding through a suburban area at the start (I accept it is impossible to be certain but he certainly seems pretty quick). Then the stopping after the stop line - we see this every day at traffic lights (creeping into ASL, over into the pedestrian crossing etc.). This type of thing is just lazy and poor driving. Nearly all the time you will get away with it, until someone rear ends you and pushes you into pedestrians / crossing traffic / the train tracks. Then going on the red light as the barriers lift is again ignorant and poor driving. 999 times out of a 1000 it will be OK, but there may be that one time when the lights are working and the barriers aren't and level crossings are very dangerous places to be - I wouldn't skip the lights for a couple of seconds. This sort of driving needs to be challenged simply because it shows a poor standard of awareness and care - don't know how you can do this though when the offences aren't major, especially when even dangerous driving appears to be viewed tolerantly at times.
 

ohnovino

Large Member
Location
Liverpool
Whether drivers like this one should be prosecuted is debatable, and had the OP asked for people's opinions I think we would have seen a fair debate on it.

Instead he declared the "CPS are idiots", a slur that is totally out of proportion to the evidence in the video, and I think that's why he was given short-shrift.
 

trampyjoe

Senior Member
Location
South Shropshire
The fact that so many people have said they see nothing wrong scares me.
Surely as the most vulnerable road users we should all want to change bad driving into good even if it is because we, as individuals, are being selfish and don't want to get hurt/killed by idiot drivers such as the one in the clip?

Yes the thread title was a bit off but I agree with what the OP had done. He saw bad driving, had evidence and reported it. I would've done the same. This attitude of reporting bad driving should be encouraged so that those drivers that get away with what they do (y'know, jumping red lights, using mobiles whilst driving, fog lights when unneccesary, speeding, close passes etc etc etc.) will have to think twice before doing something stupid.

I should think a chat/letter from the police (yes they're already stretched but that is not our fault, if you are bothered by this then campaign for more officers and get onto your local MP asking for their funding to be given back) will affect probably 80% of drivers and they will improve. The other 20% are most likely those that would drive whilst banned/without insurance/without VED/without MOT anyway and I don't know how they should be dealt with.

Mostly though, give the OP a break. This is normally such a friendly community.

*edit to add - I made those stats up btw.
 

Crankarm

Guru
Location
Nr Cambridge
2067938 said:
The thread title is one bit that stands up here. The CPS must for some time have supported the charging decision seeing as it was going to trial.

They got cold feet and bottled it. Maybe it was the summer placement that decided that they should prosecute but they have since left, so prosecution was discontinued?
 

Andy_R

Hard of hearing..I said Herd of Herring..oh FFS..
Location
County Durham
Nice flounce x
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Drago

Legendary Member
It's an offence, or it isn't. There are no shades of grey.

And it was an offence.

Whether it was worth pursuing is another matter.
 

Alun

Guru
Location
Liverpool
CPS didn't entertain it they kicked it out of court. The driver would have been reported for the offence and summonsed . CPS wouldnt have made a charging decision to get it to court like they do on criminal offences Such as theft/danage etc . I'm surprised the BTP entertained it ! I agree with others, the flashing front light concerns me more !
Why what's wrong with the front light?
 

Mr wogwon

Regular
2067938 said:
The thread title is one bit that stands up here. The CPS must for some time have supported the charging decision seeing as it was going to trial.


Traffic offence of careless driving is not 'charged' by CPS. The police would have reported him and he would have recieved a Simmons to magistrates court (a hearing not a trial) once heard at court they would have decided to bin it due to it being what it is, a waste of time, not in public interest, lack of evidence blah blah blah. Traffic offences (other than causing death/injury etc) do not require charging decisions to get to court like criminal matters as I explained earlier. It is likely CPS didn't know about this until the morning of court. However.... They can be idiots lol
 

Mr wogwon

Regular
BTP is the British transport police, they use the same law books. Crossing the track whilst lights were on is a summary only offence (traffic offence)
 
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