Crap, ridiculously expensive "classic" cars

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fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Headline - Conwy: £8.5m car owned by F1's Lewis Hamilton wrecked
Story - A one-of-a-kind car once owned by Lewis Hamilton has been wrecked while driving, a Conwy photographer has said.

:laugh:

I'd like to see the insurance claim, 'So sir, how did you come to smash the car to bits in a perfectly straight tunnel, Speeding perhaps ?'
 

KiterStu

Active Member
Location
Rickmansworth
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Took this for a spin last night😎
 
What I can't get my head around is the silly money being asked for more modern and far less impressive vehicles - boggo Sierras, Mk4/5/6 Escorts, Mk3+ Fiestas.. all of which are, let's face it - utter crap by every conceivable metric.

I understand that the desire to own this stuff is somewhat irrational and driven by the heart rather than the head, but seriously - it seems insane what some appear to be paying for a manky old Mk5 Escort compared to what else that money would get you.

Each to their own and all that, but I can't help that people buying this peripheral tat must have a bit of a screw loose. Am I wrong?

A fair number of short oval race cars (particularly Superstox / Brisca F2) are built around Ford mechanicals and powerplants. So decent donor cars are constantly sought after.
 
Another - grotty old Sierra XR4i for £7.5k :ohmy:

I could almost understand were it an original, low-mileage example, but it's tatty, has been horribly butchered (tank in boot, multi-point harnesses on granny's-gone-to-Tesco-spec seats, bonnet vents) and isn't really worthy of any form of motorsport as it's fitted with arguably one of Ford's worst abominations of an engine.

I'd not give £750 for it tbh..

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I wouldn't laugh if I were you, guys. That looks like a car set up for production class trialling. Fuel tank in the boot helps centre the weight over the rear wheels, and I'd be willing to wager there's a couple of lead plates under that tank too.
 
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An absolute bargain, £700 for a rare XR4i Ford Sierra, must bring own chainsaw to get the tree out though.

Good engine though

Not exactly sure how they know the engine is good - I suspect that, out of the 86,000 km is has, apparently, done - not all than many were recent!

Also - in terms of the engine - the fact that it is stated as a 1.0l engine then maybe it shrunk in the rain????

Still I reckon Edd or Ant could get it going in a jiffy
 

Jameshow

Veteran
The 2.8 Cologne had siamesed exhaust ports - i.e. instead of each of the six cylinders having one port leading into one runner on the manifold, one cylinder on each head had its own port while the other two on that had were merged into one at the head; leading into one manifold runner.

The result is that the cylinders with siamesed ports have less flow area and it cocks up the exhaust pulse phasing / scavanging. While typically large(ish) displacement multi-cylinder engines are tuned / known for a reasonable amount of torque at relatively low engine speeds, due to the cack head design the 2.8 doesn't get peak torque until quite high up (about 4.5k rev/min IIRC as opposed to the 3-3.5k you'd typically expect).

It also tends to make less than its headline output of 160bhp - IIRC back in the day a good one would make 145bhp on the rollers.. which is pretty pitiful when you consider the sort of specific output some of the Vauxhall and Jap engines were managing..

In practice you'd get similar revvy characteristics / power delivery to a smaller, higher-tuned engine, but with all the downsides of a large-displacement, heavy V6.

Thanks it wasn't very quick in a scimitar I had!
 
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