Because not everyone is adverse to carbon like you......
Custom ti frame (Waltly, China) - my experience
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gregorywells
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Being honest, I kinda like (certain) carbon forks on titanium frames. I also think the ride feel is nicer vs steel. I would agree if you were going for more a retro build but then I guess you might as well go all steel. That aside, I'd assume getting steel forks with thru axle and integrated isn't as simple since there is less of a market for it.
matticus
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Many plain carbon forks are quite unobtrusive, so wouldn't jar against most frames visually.
For me, the typical Ti frame doesn't look like a classic steel one, with fancy lugwork or any of that jazz - so putting a more modern component on the front end doesn't look as odd as it would on an old steel frame. Personal views!
(regarding the modern curse of thru axles: i think steel f&f are now fashionable enough that someone is making them in every permutation going, and discs are the current predominant trend!)
@SkipdiverJohn for me it would be puerly visual aspect. With most of Ti bikes using larger diameter tubes than steel ones, a svelte 753 form would not look attractive on a overbuilt in comparison bike
Chris S
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I wonder if they meant to call the company 'Watery'? 
matticus
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But why would you use larger diameter tubes? I don't think Ti is weaker/floppier than good steels, is it?
(My Raleigh Dynatech Ti looked exactly like an average steel frame from a distance - it was painted to help the deception!)
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If I was smarter than I am I would probably had a great reply
I have no doubt there are beautiful Ti bikes with 28mm tubing, but with the current market pushing for tapered fugly headtubes and thicker downtubes a straight steel fork might look out of a place, at least to my admittedly limited sense of aesthethics.
As far as I am concerned it will never approach the beauty of this:
But then again, tastes are tastes
I have no doubt there are beautiful Ti bikes with 28mm tubing, but with the current market pushing for tapered fugly headtubes and thicker downtubes a straight steel fork might look out of a place, at least to my admittedly limited sense of aesthethics.
As far as I am concerned it will never approach the beauty of this:
But then again, tastes are tastes
matticus
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If I was smarter than I am I would probably had a great reply
I have no doubt there are beautiful Ti bikes with 28mm tubing, but with the current market pushing for tapered fugly headtubes and thicker downtubes a straight steel fork might look out of a place, at least to my admittedly limited sense of aesthethics.
Because the topic is "CUSTOM ti frame" I reckon we don't need to worry about market fashions, and can just spec our lovely frames according to taste and engineering :P
That green thing is fuglyIf I was smarter than I am I would probably had a great reply
I have no doubt there are beautiful Ti bikes with 28mm tubing, but with the current market pushing for tapered fugly headtubes and thicker downtubes a straight steel fork might look out of a place, at least to my admittedly limited sense of aesthethics.
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As far as I am concerned it will never approach the beauty of this:
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But then again, tastes are tastes
SkipdiverJohn
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No, that's real engineering, designed and built by humans not robots.
You do realise that Carbon parts are entirely made by hand. No robots.
still fugly......
What? Carbon fibre is a triumph of engineering progress.
All bikes are designed by humans. Steel parts are more likely to be made by robots, although admittedly not on that fugly green thing.
SkipdiverJohn
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I'm not adverse to all carbon fibre. Just the ugly stuff with all the visual aopeal of a kitchen table leg or cats scratching post. Some very early CF bikes were actually quite nice to look at when they were built using an aluminium lugged method. They only became ugly when they started moulding the whole frame in one piece.
Carbon fibre is nothing new. It has been used in aerospace for several decades. However there is a big difference between planes and bikes. The operators of the former go to great lengths to avoid them impacting into other solid objects. Bikes get bashed into hard things all the time and there's the problem. Carbon fibre is fine so long as it can avoid damaging impacts, but in bicycle applications it often can't avoid such impacts. Therefore it is not the ideal choice of material to make bike frames & components from.
1. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, everything else you wrote is just pure bollocks.
