Cycle and car cams and the law

[ebikeerwidnes]

I was looking at today Road.cc's 'near miss of the day' and I noticed the following

The report also raised questions about the Operation Crackdown portal, which our reader notes "now states that for 'GDPR' reasons you have to inform other drivers that you are filming using a dashcam in order for them to be useable."

The portal has the following statement which needs ticking before making a report.

I confirm that I understand that dashcam footage falls under the Category of CCTV and as the footage is taken in the public domain, the Domestic Purposes Exemption under the Data Protection Act/UKGDPR does not apply and therefore all users are Data Controllers in their own right. As such you should be informing the public that they are being filmed and should have some form of notification on your mode of transport as you have responsibilities under the Data Protection Act /UKGDPR

First I have heard of this - if enforced properly it would make all CCTV footage from cars and bike irrelevant

Anyone else heard of this or is it just one Police Force - or even one copper - going a bit overboard??

thanks

 

[richardfm]

I've submitted footage to https://gosafesnap.wales/ a few times and this has never come up.

If this advice https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/das...nd-the-law-what-you-need-to-know-aUty85w5AYQC applies to cycle cams as well as dashcams then you don't need a notice informing people they are being filmed

 

[figbat]

I thought that the ICO had provided a specific exemption for recordings made during personal pursuits, rather than for commercial reasons.

 

[C R]

I was looking at today Road.cc's 'near miss of the day' and I noticed the following

The report also raised questions about the Operation Crackdown portal, which our reader notes "now states that for 'GDPR' reasons you have to inform other drivers that you are filming using a dashcam in order for them to be useable."

The portal has the following statement which needs ticking before making a report.



First I have heard of this - if enforced properly it would make all CCTV footage from cars and bike irrelevant

Anyone else heard of this or is it just one Police Force - or even one copper - going a bit overboard??

thanks

I think it sounds an like an overzealous interpretation, like when H&S is used as an excuse.

 

[presta]

If the BBC film a vox-pop in the street, do they go chasing after every passer-by in the background with a consent form?

 

[richardfm]

I think it sounds an like an overzealous interpretation, like when H&S is used as an excuse.

My "favourite" H&S myth is PAT testing, so much money is wasted on it. See https://www.hse.gov.uk/electricity/faq-portable-appliance-testing.htm

 

[KnittyNorah]

I have a 'passpixi' camera sign on the back of my bike. I consider that sufficient warning/notification for anyone close enough to see it, that they may be being recorded. As an added bonus, its presence appears to be surprisingly effective at stopping drivers from getting 'up my backside' at pinch points or left-hooking me when I'm going straight ahead across a road on the left ...
BTW I don't (yet) have a cam.

 

[cougie uk]

I was looking at today Road.cc's 'near miss of the day' and I noticed the following

The report also raised questions about the Operation Crackdown portal, which our reader notes "now states that for 'GDPR' reasons you have to inform other drivers that you are filming using a dashcam in order for them to be useable."

The portal has the following statement which needs ticking before making a report.



First I have heard of this - if enforced properly it would make all CCTV footage from cars and bike irrelevant

Anyone else heard of this or is it just one Police Force - or even one copper - going a bit overboard??

thanks

Yeah I think that's bobbins.
I use this portal to report - https://nextbase.co.uk/national-dash-cam-safety-portal/

Never had an issue with GDPR stuff.

 

[mjr]

I thought that the ICO had provided a specific exemption for recordings made during personal pursuits, rather than for commercial reasons.

Can you find it?

The same form is used by Surrey who normally seem one of the better constabularies. https://unitedkingdom1cpp-portal.digital-policing.co.uk/serip/appeal/operation-crackdown

 

[Alex321]

Can you find it?

The same form is used by Surrey who normally seem one of the better constabularies. https://unitedkingdom1cpp-portal.digital-policing.co.uk/serip/appeal/operation-crackdown

There is nothing on that page about you needing to inform people you are recording.

It looks very similar to the Operation Snap one used by South Wales Police that I filled in yesterday, which also had nothing about that.

As far as I can see from the ICO website, you need to inform the public if you have a dashcam in a business vehice being used for business purposes, but not if it is a private vehicle being used for personal purposes.

This page explains the rules for businesses https://ico.org.uk/for-organisation...d-uk-gdpr-what-small-businesses-need-to-know/

The only reference I can find for personal use is here https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/domestic-cctv-systems/, but all that says is "These rules only apply to fixed cameras. They do not cover roaming cameras, such as drones or dashboard cameras (dashcams)."

 

[mjr]

There is nothing on that page about you needing to inform people you are recording.

Did you press the "Respond..." button to display the form? It includes the aforementioned words near the bottom.

 

[classic33]

Operation Snap, Lancashire Police, has exactly the same wording on their uploading site/portal.

 

[Alex321]

Did you press the "Respond..." button to display the form? It includes the aforementioned words near the bottom.

No, I wasn't going to fill in all my details when I didn't actually have anything to report.

 

[Fastpedaller]

I have a 'passpixi' camera sign on the back of my bike. I consider that sufficient warning/notification for anyone close enough to see it, that they may be being recorded. As an added bonus, its presence appears to be surprisingly effective at stopping drivers from getting 'up my backside' at pinch points or left-hooking me when I'm going straight ahead across a road on the left ...
BTW I don't (yet) have a cam.

Hmm - that's food for thought, as I've considered doing the same myself. I was concerned it may 'incite' poor drivers to do a close pass, but your words have reassured me somewhat. I may get the paintbrush out and put a little sign on my rear carrier

 

[KnittyNorah]

Hmm - that's food for thought, as I've considered doing the same myself. I was concerned it may 'incite' poor drivers to do a close pass, but your words have reassured me somewhat. I may get the paintbrush out and put a little sign on my rear carrier

I avoid busy roads as much as I can, but in order to access a wide network of local cycle paths, I must ride along a busy commuter route for a few hundred yards. In that short distance are several prime opportunities for unsafe overtakes, including pedestrian 'islands' near an access road to a busy housing estate, schools etc, a couple of bus stops and a heavily-wooded stretch with poor sightlines. I am convinced the Passpixi has reduced close/impatient overtakes.