Read the other thread. When this bus lane was under construction, I (and a lot of other cyclists including the local LCC people) was very much looking forward to being able to bypass a four-lane gyratory which includes a set of traffic lights on a bend (great place to get crushed). Now the contraflow exists but due to the actions of non-cyclists is not available to us after all, we feel let down. Arguing about whether the Highway Code is the Law or not is a fun activity for Internet users of all ages, but completely a side-issue as far as this is concerned.
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Read the other thread. When this bus lane was under construction, I (and a lot of other cyclists including the local LCC people) was very much looking forward to being able to bypass a four-lane gyratory which includes a set of traffic lights on a bend (great place to get crushed). Now the contraflow exists but due to the actions of non-cyclists is not available to us after all, we feel let down. Arguing about whether the Highway Code is the Law or not is a fun activity for Internet users of all ages, but completely a side-issue as far as this is concerned.
jmaccyd
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Of course the non-cyclists are the huge numbers of bus passengers that go along this corridor down to Oxford Street. Simply put priority here has been given to buses over all other forms of transport. I've seen buses held up by cyclists that use this lane as there is not the room to get past correctly.
The design of the bus lane is pants by the way, and the 'correct' route is nasty too BUT that does not excuse ignoring the restrictions in place.
I might make the suggestion that a bus "held up" by slow cyclists is far less likely to be driving into pedestrians who are looking the wrong way while crossing the road, and that cordoning off a contraflow scalextrix track for them is not good for pedestrian convenience either. And, with bus stops every few hundred yards and traffic lights where there aren't bus stops, and a 20mph limit, exactly how much less bus throughput do we really expect due to the 55 sometimes getting stuck behind a Raleigh Shopper?
I take the point about cyclists doing dangerous bus overtakes (or undertakes) and I'm not excusing ignoring the restrictions, I'm simply saying that the entire ****ing thing is daft and disappointing.
I take the point about cyclists doing dangerous bus overtakes (or undertakes) and I'm not excusing ignoring the restrictions, I'm simply saying that the entire ****ing thing is daft and disappointing.
subaqua
What’s the point
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- Leytonstone
welcome to life . sorry couldn't resist.
I think the actions of cyclists had quite a lot to do with the current situation. When I am not using my bike, I have to walk over that junction to get to and from the office, and it is a rare day that I don't encounter a colour blind cyclist on the traffic light controlled pedestrian crossings.
So I can see why the traffic planners might be concerned that the same colour blind cyclists would be even more of a problem if they were allowed to use the contraflow.
JoysOfSight
Active Member
Near me there are a few faux one-way streets that are two-way for us (marked 'no turn (except cycles)' instead of 'no entry' so cars can only come one way). It's not unusual to see people driving the wrong way down these "one way" streets regardless.
They come out with many plausible-sounding excuses but at the end of the day, they're choosing to make their own rules, just like people who ignore bike restrictions in this case.
I don't know this particular road so I won't comment on whether I'd back a campaign to lift the restriction against bikes, but that's the correct course, or if you choose to ignore it, not crying when the law is actually enforced.
I had to ride through Chester once, on my way from the south-west to the north. There's a bit with an excellent bus lane which is *not* for bikes, and a pavement cycle "facility" alongside. Comparing the risks of being ticketed for illegal lane use VS t-boning someone reversing out of their drive at 20mph, I chose to use the bus lane. (You can see an entertaining full-size "slow" painted on the pavement, one of many!)
I didn't see any buses, and it was rush hour. Yes, I'm aware that this is exactly the justification the wrong-way drivers use, isn't life deliciously complicated?
They come out with many plausible-sounding excuses but at the end of the day, they're choosing to make their own rules, just like people who ignore bike restrictions in this case.
I don't know this particular road so I won't comment on whether I'd back a campaign to lift the restriction against bikes, but that's the correct course, or if you choose to ignore it, not crying when the law is actually enforced.
I had to ride through Chester once, on my way from the south-west to the north. There's a bit with an excellent bus lane which is *not* for bikes, and a pavement cycle "facility" alongside. Comparing the risks of being ticketed for illegal lane use VS t-boning someone reversing out of their drive at 20mph, I chose to use the bus lane. (You can see an entertaining full-size "slow" painted on the pavement, one of many!)
I didn't see any buses, and it was rush hour. Yes, I'm aware that this is exactly the justification the wrong-way drivers use, isn't life deliciously complicated?
subaqua
What’s the point
- Location
- Leytonstone
to be brutally honest there are no houses along the A483 from posthouse (A55) to overleigh ( A5104) roundabouts , where you would reverse out of the drive at 20mph. the houses along there have hoofing great turning circles in the grounds . if memory serves me right there are 5 houses in total .
in reality i would ride on the road ( not the bus lane) if I was concerned that a car was going to reverse out .
the biggest concern would be all the office wallahs piling out of chester busines park who have no idea what a R-A-B is or how to use one
