Cycle Super-Highways
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chap
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marinyork said:
I am a fan of OpenMap and OpenCycleMap and would like to contribute. So far I have a mobile phone with GPS (Sony Ericsson W995) although the battery life on this is pitiful, are there any cheap devices* you can recommend for such contributions?
*Ideally one which has a screen and map on it, unless it is indeed very cheap.
chap said:
I'm not an expert, the one that people recommend is exceedingly expensive at about £100 (and it doesn't have a mapping screen either but it is very good at what it is designed to do which is track points, lots and lots of them).
Your phone is probably fine for tagging or getting the idea. As long as it outputs GPX or something that can be converted into GPX it's fine.
There are plenty of other ways you can help out that don't involve doing tagging or tracks. You can source things through "local knowledge" or "surveys" on there. For example I added libraries, some shops, permissive paths and things and shedloads of cycle parking. Some places don't even have the road names on. There's billions of little bits and bobs people can do to slowly improve an area.
P.S. OSM updates almost instantaneously, whereas Opencyclemap is supposed to update once a week it is a bit more relaxed than that and can be up to every 2 weeks sometimes
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chap
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marinyork said:I'm not an expert, the one that people recommend is exceedingly expensive at about £100 (and it doesn't have a mapping screen either but it is very good at what it is designed to do which is track points, lots and lots of them).
Your phone is probably fine for tagging or getting the idea. As long as it outputs GPX or something that can be converted into GPX it's fine.
There are plenty of other ways you can help out that don't involve doing tagging or tracks. You can source things through "local knowledge" or "surveys" on there. For example I added libraries, some shops, permissive paths and things and shedloads of cycle parking. Some places don't even have the road names on. There's billions of little bits and bobs people can do to slowly improve an area.
P.S. OSM updates almost instantaneously, whereas Opencyclemap is supposed to update once a week it is a bit more relaxed than that and can be up to every 2 weeks sometimes.
Yes, I believe it can save to GPX!
I'll have to look into some software to edit them.
That's a shame that they take longer, I thought that using the same source, they would probably latch onto the OpenStreetMap site, then again if all interests did that then perhaps the main site would become overwhelmed.
Expect a new contributer
CopperBrompton
Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
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Thanks, I shall have a peruse
chap
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Ben Lovejoy said:
Don't forget to write up a review (of the cycle-path.)
CopperBrompton
Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
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I shall (though it's unlikely to be before April)
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Work begins on London's first two Cycle Superhighways
This para interests me:
"Specific issues regarding various points on the two routes will also be addressed, such as studying the effect of changing the current two northbound lanes of the A3 approaching Elephant & Castle to one to allow a new, segregated cycle lane to be installed there, and a similar lane is also planned for the junction parallel to Stockwell Terrace. The Elephant & Castle gyratory system will also see improved signage."
http://road.cc/node/14528
This para interests me:
"Specific issues regarding various points on the two routes will also be addressed, such as studying the effect of changing the current two northbound lanes of the A3 approaching Elephant & Castle to one to allow a new, segregated cycle lane to be installed there, and a similar lane is also planned for the junction parallel to Stockwell Terrace. The Elephant & Castle gyratory system will also see improved signage."
http://road.cc/node/14528
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Blue paint on the ground:
http://realcycling.blogspot.com/2010/02/cycle-superhighways-start-here.html
http://realcycling.blogspot.com/2010/02/cycle-superhighways-start-here.html
CopperBrompton
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It's definitely enough to make one feel blue.
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Cycle Superhighways - Updated TFL shite site:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/cycling/11901.aspx?lid=switcher
The artist's impressions (which are normally a bit fanciful and glitzy in most promotional material) are decidedly underwhelming in this case. I suppose it's an honest take on things (i.e new blue facilities are sub-standard cycle lanes and not CSH utopia).
I'll draw your attention to pic 5, Colliers Wood - the more observant of you will notice the 24 hour mini cab office on the left, those who know the area know what that means!
I'll also mention pic 3, Churchyard Row (which is the E+C bypass) - last time I used it the path was blocked by a flat bed truck and had glass strewn across it. It's also a hard left if you're coming from Kennington.
While I'm at it:
Pic 8, Mansell St just looks a mess. On road provision, off-road provision, pedestrian conflict points...
Pic 2 Kennington Park Road - Black cab driver heaven - "get in the cycle lane" will be heard if you want to overtake a cyclist using the full width of the bus lane or simply want to ride farther out from the kerb, away from bus stops...
I could go on, but my monitor is getting flecked with sputum.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/cycling/11901.aspx?lid=switcher
The artist's impressions (which are normally a bit fanciful and glitzy in most promotional material) are decidedly underwhelming in this case. I suppose it's an honest take on things (i.e new blue facilities are sub-standard cycle lanes and not CSH utopia).
I'll draw your attention to pic 5, Colliers Wood - the more observant of you will notice the 24 hour mini cab office on the left, those who know the area know what that means!
I'll also mention pic 3, Churchyard Row (which is the E+C bypass) - last time I used it the path was blocked by a flat bed truck and had glass strewn across it. It's also a hard left if you're coming from Kennington.
While I'm at it:
Pic 8, Mansell St just looks a mess. On road provision, off-road provision, pedestrian conflict points...
Pic 2 Kennington Park Road - Black cab driver heaven - "get in the cycle lane" will be heard if you want to overtake a cyclist using the full width of the bus lane or simply want to ride farther out from the kerb, away from bus stops...
I could go on, but my monitor is getting flecked with sputum.
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Bollo said:If that's the aspiration then flip knows what the reality will be like!
I can't claim any particular planning expertise beyond being a regular cyclist, but I could pick gaping holes in nearly every one of those facilities. Astoundingly bad.
I'm sure some of the measures that are being taken will improve the lot of cyclists (resurfacing, speed calming measures at side roads, removing pedestrian barriers, junction re-design etc), but some, clearly, will not. It's a real hotchpotch.
As a minimum surely all super highways should have the same conditions as red routes to stop parking in them...
I am very skeptical they will. Also, the Wandsworth route used to run from Kingston, I wonder why half the route have upped and vanished like a fart in the wind?
I am very skeptical they will. Also, the Wandsworth route used to run from Kingston, I wonder why half the route have upped and vanished like a fart in the wind?
