Come on we all know some surley? Even if they are a bit far fetched. I heard this one the other day told by one of my relations, it made me smile. Was after the Tour de France, when they were talking abotu the drugs issue. 'You can always tell a clean rider. He is the one at the back!' And this one from one of Tom Simpson's old training mates after his death on the 13th stage when they were all blaming the drugs totally on it. he was asked about how he felt about the drugs found on Simpson. and he replied something along the lines of. 'Well, what do you think those riders get round on ... spring water?'