Cycling & Social Deprevation!

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oxbob

New Member
Location
oxford
Clann said:
Some good points, however can we nail down a solid Hypothesis...
Suggestions:
1. Chav Rants at cyclists are directly related to the amounts of cheap lager imbibed, parenting skills and education levels
OR
2. Levels of Chav abuse are incremental with numbers in Chav group and are not related to social deprevation.
Deffo no 2 in this area
 

Joe24

More serious cyclist than Bonj
Location
Nottingham
Clann said:
Some good points, however can we nail down a solid Hypothesis...
Suggestions:
1. Chav Rants at cyclists are directly related to the amounts of cheap lager imbibed, parenting skills and education levels
OR
2. Levels of Chav abuse are incremental with numbers in Chav group and are not related to social deprevation.

Partly number one and number 2.
Chav parenting, lack of education and them drinking too much lager makes them act like dicks.
Them being in a gang and wanting to impress makes them act like dicks.
 

gbb

Squire
Location
Peterborough
Nah, you're all barking up the wrong tree re chavs / deprivation / cyclists.

Its quite simple i think.
They can hurl abuse at you (the cyclist) knowing you'll almost certainly keep going, and therefore be no threat to them. He can puff his chest, look hard in front of his mates, with virtually no threat to himself...all's well with the world for the chav.
If they do that to a ped...they've GOT to see it through, one way or the other.
You can't go up to someone who cant go anywhere faster than you, and start abusing them verbally without one one of two probable outcomes..

1. The pedestrian the chavs abuse takes umbrage...and twats them. Thats a threat they dont have to take with cyclists, because the cyclist will probably dissapear into the distance....just because he can.
2. The pedestrian the chavs abuse argues back...now the antes been upped. Can the chav handle it. Maybe not what he expected...now he's got to up the ante himself to save face. Does he want to go there ?

Simple...pick on a cyclist...realistically there's no chance of the chav having to back up his empty, brainless, futile abuse. He appears a bear in front of his mates without really having to take any risk.
Or..pick on someone that cant get away. Then there's all sorts of riskier outcomes for the chav.
Chickenshits.

Of course, theres no absolute rule, i was cycling along some years ago. I passed a yoof at the side of the road, who made a half assed attempt of a lunge at me as i passed, trying to be clever.

:biggrin::smile:! I turned round and stuck my face in his...'what now then big boy' :biggrin:

He whimpered something and turned away....chickenshit
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
cyclists are vulnerable, particularly if they're on funny shoes. But - and think carefully before givng this go - if you're faced with one of those clever little so and so's who thinks it's smart to more or less get in your way while he or she shouts abuse, and you have a clear exit line it can be fun to gob on them as you pass.
 

Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
+1
Noodley said:
Good first post.

It might be related to yoofs thinking runners can run after them and cyclists are attached to a bike. It comes as a surprise if you stop your bike and they find you have the power to walk, run and swing your hand in their direction whilst snarling....;)

A few guys I know were out a couple of weeks ago (4 or 5 of them) and they 'encountered' a large gang of yoofs. The yoofs lost big time. Yoofs seem to suffer from the 'we are invincible' gene. Wrong, as us oldies have the 'we can plough through you little twats as we are bid strong and are pissed off with the world so you are the ideal opportunity to twat somebody' gene. Old genes win all the time.
 

Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
I do not believe that H1 and H2 are mutually exclusive and am certain that is plotted as a ven diagram you would find.


Chav Rants at cyclists are directly related to the amounts of cheap lager imbibed, parenting skills, education levels and is incremental with numbers in Chav group.

Clann said:
Some good points, however can we nail down a solid Hypothesis...
Suggestions:
1. Chav Rants at cyclists are directly related to the amounts of cheap lager imbibed, parenting skills and education levels
OR
2. Levels of Chav abuse are incremental with numbers in Chav group and are not related to social deprevation.
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
Location
Brighton
There was an item on R4. I think, the other day about odd signifiers of middle/working class. The only one I can remember is that the middle classes tend to keep their ketchup in the fridge.
So, next time you are abused perhaps you could ask them where they keep their brown sauce, to test the theory.
 

Rhythm Thief

Legendary Member
Location
Ross on Wye
Joe24 said:
As for the, if you go back at them they will learn not to shout absue. I doubt it will work. I once had some twat shout and throw something at me, i skidded my bike around and powered off after him. He just stood there giving me abuse, saying he was gonna get his brother down to beat me up. He will still be a cheeky bugger.

But that's because you're a small child. It works better when you're a grown up.;)
 

Mr Pig

New Member
The abuse I can handle. But round my way they often throw things at you! Like stones, bottles or cans of lager!
 
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Clann

New Member
Location
Lurgan
Angelfishsolo said:
Chav Rants at cyclists are directly related to the amounts of cheap lager imbibed, parenting skills, education levels and is incremental with numbers in Chav group.
I think this is the hypothesis to be tested!! Maybe we could organise a nationwide investigation with different clubs/riders sampling and ranking their locales on the aforementioned scale.
A national network of Chav behaviour and hotspots could then be established for the cycling community!
 

Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
Sounds like a plan!!! :evil:
Clann said:
I think this is the hypothesis to be tested!! Maybe we could organise a nationwide investigation with different clubs/riders sampling and ranking their locales on the aforementioned scale.
A national network of Chav behaviour and hotspots could then be established for the cycling community!
 

Joe24

More serious cyclist than Bonj
Location
Nottingham
Rhythm Thief said:
But that's because you're a small child. It works better when you're a grown up.:evil:

:ohmy:
He was in about year 7 and still being excited that he was allowed to walk to school on his own, decided to be a gobby little shite.
It might not last long, he will mouth off to someone older in another year when they are annoyed and he will have the crap beaten out of him. He will then no longer be the gobby little shoot he is.
Unless he gets his brother in, then he might turn back into the gobby little fat shoot he was.
 
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