Cycling watch or computer

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N0bodyOfTheGoat

Über Member
Location
Hampshire, UK
Found a cable! Now charging 😂

Don’t think I’ve got the bit to attach it to the bike - will have a look online

I've never had a Garmin, but don't they all use the same quarter-turn style mount?

While I've had three Lezyne GPS computers since '17, which have packed a lot of features for the money, their proprietary mount annoys me... The feeble bit of plastic holding the central round mount is so easy to break.
 

PaulSB

Squire
This does sound interesting. I’ll have a look. Would it load to Strava or just keep a record? How does that work?
I'm not trying to sell this watch to you or anyone but there is a point here which may help others. I had a Garmin vivoactive HR for eight years. It was good, did everything I wanted and more. It was though very heavy and bulky, one friend referred to it as Paul's tag, and I couldn't tolerate wearing it 24 hours a day!! Over the years the performance declined until April when the touch screen began to fail. I wanted a replacement but baulked at the prices for Garmin, Apple etc. At the time I bought the Xiaomi, early May, Which? hadn't reviewed it. I decided for £50 it was worth a punt. After five months use I'm delighted with it. I wear the watch 24/7 which means I get the full benefit of all the health tracking. It is a fitness tracker rather than a watch.

The Xiaomi comes with a companion app called Mi Fitness. All activities are recorded on the watch by pressing the relevant function button. When the activity is complete the watch syncs with Mi Fitness where you can view all your results and automatically uploads to Strava. It's seamless after syncing with the app, by the time the app is closed down the data is on Strava. In cycling and walking terms my only moan, a very small one, is the watch records in kms and it's only after uploading to Strava that one gets the data in miles. It's a tiny thing that I don't lose any sleep over. It has the following:
  • 158 different sporting activities pre-programmed on the device, if none of those suit choose "freestyle."
  • Swim proof
  • Notifications and calls
  • Nine fitness and health elements monitored
  • Apps on watch include Music, Alarm, Tasks, Weather, World Clock, Find Device, Find Phone
  • Torch, compass, stop watch, timer, calendar
  • Take a photograph with your phone but controlled from the watch - this is really useful
  • Hundreds of different watch faces and screen configurations
Which? describe it as "It’s the highest-performing fitness tracker we’ve tested"

It won't take calls and you can't pay for your coffee using the watch. Does this really matter? With all of the above packed in for £50-60 I can't see a reason to buy Garmin, Apple, Samsung etc unless integration with one's phone is seen as essential.
 
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StuAff

Silencing his legs regularly
Location
Portsmouth
I've never had a Garmin, but don't they all use the same quarter-turn style mount?
No. Older Edges (up to & including the 705) have a horizontal slide-on mount with a push-down locking tab (the latter has the awkward habit of breaking, I bought quite a few of them). eTrex models generally use their own bike mount- the unit just slides in from the top and clips in, it pops off after a bit of twisting to release the tension. As some people really hate that solution- I've never had a problem with it, even on my scooters- there are also 3D printed adaptors available for quarter-turn mounts.
 

Alex321

Guru
Location
South Wales
I've never had a Garmin, but don't they all use the same quarter-turn style mount?

While I've had three Lezyne GPS computers since '17, which have packed a lot of features for the money, their proprietary mount annoys me... The feeble bit of plastic holding the central round mount is so easy to break.

They are all proprietary - no mount fits the computers from another manufacturer. Yu can bodge some by cutting bits off (Can't remember whether that is to get a Garmin to fit a Wahoo mount or the other way around), but that isn't really satisfactory.
 

OldShep

Veteran
While I've had three Lezyne GPS computers since '17, which have packed a lot of features for the money, their proprietary mount annoys me... The feeble bit of plastic holding the central round mount is so easy to break

I too have been a Lezyne user for many years. I’ve found the mounts to be OK and I’ve never had a unit jump off. My 6yo Mega however has worn away the lugs on the unit itself and can now be easily pulled off in the lock position.
 

Dadam

Über Member
Location
SW Leeds
They are all proprietary - no mount fits the computers from another manufacturer. Yu can bodge some by cutting bits off (Can't remember whether that is to get a Garmin to fit a Wahoo mount or the other way around), but that isn't really satisfactory.

Not quite. Most of the cheaper off brand ones these days seem to have settled on Garmin quarter turn compatibility. It seems to be becoming a de facto standard.
 

Alex321

Guru
Location
South Wales
Not quite. Most of the cheaper off brand ones these days seem to have settled on Garmin quarter turn compatibility. It seems to be becoming a de facto standard.

I can't see the other big brands such as Wahoo, Lezyne, Bryton changing their native mounts though.

But having said that, I know you can get adapter kits to allow others to use the Garmin mount. Just checked, and they are available for all those three.
 

cyberknight

As long as I breathe, I attack.
I think that's an Edge 200 (or similar). The charging cable is any mini USB cable plus a bog standard USB charger. But you'll need to connect it by cable to a PC to do any uploads.

No reason why it shouldn't work. Go on, dig out a mini USB and give it a new lease of life.
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Depends if the battery is toasty. You can replace them but I found mine started developing glitches in the software so wouldn't boot past the bios screen
 

Dadam

Über Member
Location
SW Leeds
I can't see the other big brands such as Wahoo, Lezyne, Bryton changing their native mounts though.

But having said that, I know you can get adapter kits to allow others to use the Garmin mount. Just checked, and they are available for all those three.

Not immediately but I can see it's possible if the trend continues. Even Sony eventually caved to the market and started making VHS recorders.
 

Dogtrousers

Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
Depends if the battery is toasty. You can replace them but I found mine started developing glitches in the software so wouldn't boot past the bios screen

Yeah, I was probably over stating things a bit with "no reason why it shouldn't work". There are good reasons why not.

And if it does work, it will be pretty crappy in comparison to even the bottom of the range recent devices.

But fun to fire it up, all the same.
 

Dogtrousers

Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
At the risk of sounding like a grumpy old fart (Ok, I am a grumpy old fart), doesn't anyone just ride their bloody bike anymore without being wired up to satellites, computers, heart monitors and power meters?

I don't understand. What would be the point of that? ;)
 

Alex321

Guru
Location
South Wales
At the risk of sounding like a grumpy old fart (Ok, I am a grumpy old fart), doesn't anyone just ride their bloody bike anymore without being wired up to satellites, computers, heart monitors and power meters?

*Shuffles off muttering under his breath and dribbling down his cardigan*

Even when I was a kid, I had a speedo/odometer on my bike - and that was 50+ years ago. OK, all that showed was speed and distance, based on a magnet on the wheel with a wired sensor. But all the stuff we have now is just an extension to that.
 

Alex321

Guru
Location
South Wales
I hope so. Like USB-C becomming a standard having a universally adopted bracket for cycling accessories would make things a lot easier.

It would. Also like the GoPro mount does seem to have become the defacto standard for action cameras.

It does mean you get a lot more 3rd party manufacturers of the mounts, so cheaper and easier tro source.
 
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